Babya Discoverer browser is only an 11K download. It is fast. It REALLY works. It's pretty. It is, however, minimalist. Yes, I said 11K -- NOT 11mb! DL from... http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail.php3?fid=1042774953 aloha.......bellgamin P.S. Babya's homepage is at... http://babyasystem.portal.dk3.com/ P.P.S. [blushing] With further research, I now know that this browser is only a Visual Basic Front end to the Internet Explorer rendering engine. Still... it's an interesting proggie, so some of you might want to give it a spin.