Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by JerryM, Apr 16, 2013.
Looks promising, someone is listening to user voice too.
Thank you for your note. I spent much of the weekend investigating exactly what unwanted software Avira installed and hopefully removed all of it. Please note that simply uninstalling the apps via the control panel did not completely remove the unwanted software. For example, PhantomTAP VPN drivers were installed without warning or consent, and using control panel did not delete them.
My solution to that problem was to temporarily login as admin, drop into powershell, and use the sc.exe command with the 'delete' option to remove references to that driver. After that, I wiped the actual driver file from windows\system32\drivers. I haven't checked to see if it infiltrated DriverStore; I still need to look into that possibility.
Overall, Avira really caused a mess and created a lot of frustration and disappointment. I have lost many hours of my time dealing with the mess. All the same, I sincerely appreciate you taking your time to post a message on these forums acknowledging the problem and apologizing for it.
Currently, I have all Avira processes blocked from accessing the internet, due to concerns that they may reinstall some or all the unwanted software again. What actions do we all need to take to ensure this will not happen? Do any files need to be deleted, registry keys modified, or files edited? I noticed that an executable called 'avirasecuritycenteragentwin7.exe' is now attempting to transmit data. Does that file need to be deleted? Why is it suddenly trying to transmit data?
Several concerns remain. One of the biggest ones is that Avira has a documented history of installing unwanted software on people's computers without any consent. Perhaps we can work together to prevent this from ever occurring again. At the least, it will require the adoption of an official publically-available corporate policy from Avira committing to never installing any software (including plug-ins, addons, extensions, etc.) without clear public documentation and obvious user consent.
Furthermore, if you have the time, please take a look at my posts from the last 2 weeks. Included in those posts are observations and questions for which I would appreciate your feedback and answers.
I look forward to your responses.
#5616 ^^^ @LocoSec ,
Why beat dead horses over and over again?
On my costumer machines i uninstall AVIRA, AVG and Avast, whether Payed, or free versions.
In case windows is still booting normally...
not a single one of them ever asked you why you uninstalled their licensed av sw?
Almost all accepted my argumentation.
I have Avira Prime.
I installed it on a few machines, it is light on old machines and users are happy for it.
But there is one problem.
Avira Panel has My License option and under it, everyone can see, it is installed on how many machines and what are their names.
Only admin should know about this and my.avira.com only.
Why Avira Panel is showing all user details in each installation.
Not happy with this feature.
(Using Sophos too, but only admin can see, it is installed on which machines through their web admin panel).
Avira continues to cheat the users, it says "Download Avira Free Antivirus" and actually the installer is for the bloatware Avira Free Security!!!!
Avira Free Security Suite => Avira Free Security
avira is going avast way with all the bloatware and their wrong policies . hopefully someone will come to their senses sometimes soon before it will be too late ( if it is not already)
I miss the old avira where the GUI was clean and nice. I hate this product now. They need to clean it up and not bloat it up like avast and avg.
I stopped using Avira back in 2008, after that it went downhill and it seems they have now completely ruined it, so I can't even recommend it to friends and family anymore.
It works fine here, that is Avira Pro on one machine (on the other I have Kaspersky I.S.), cheaper than others on a three year subscription, light as a feather at least on my machine, and one of the best when tested for malware detection and false positives by antivirus testing labs. So gentlemen, what gives? Now I have no idea about the free version of Avira, but if I were to use it I would definitely switch to Windows Defender...
Everybody knows that AVs was born by the necessity.
Once upon a time, there was no MS AV and the area was wide open for the AV companies. Thereafter in 2006 the MS Windows Defender was born but it was a joke.
Nowadays, the MS Windows Defender is equal and maybe even better from the rest.
So in protection area, the days for the AV companies are limited and instead of been revolutionary once again, the most of them are selling snake oils and they think that will survive with it.
Few years ago, one Firewall and one AV (free or paid) from the market was a must.
Who is using firewalls nowadays? Who will use snake oils tomorrow?
Time will tell.
Same here... maybe if we all agree in unison, as loudly as we can, someone over there will hear us.
Same here. I stopped using it when they deleted their forum and switching to a new platform (which was a major downgrade in my opinion). I was tired from their prescan feature as well. Their definitions and heuristics are top notch but Avira (at least the free version) needs stronger zero-day protection or to be combined with other product to fill the gap. I hope we will see them back on the right track someday.
Avira Antivirus for Windows, Version 15.0.2002.1755 released on Feb 18, 2020.
I tend to agree with you, but giving more money to a company that doesn't listen... meh...
Avira’s entire global workforce to work from home in preventative anti-COVID-19 move
If "Avira anticipates zero negative impact on the company’s operations, customer service and product development " why didn't they work from home to begin with and save on rent, travelling , time?
this question makes no sense at all.
If there is ZERO performance impact working from home, why the company has to pay rent for offices all over the world and why people have to commute, sometime for hours , back and forth to work,when they can simply work from home , with absolutely same result, as per Avira.
it's just a temporary precaution (an unexpected interruption to operations/force majeure). you can't run a million $ company from home for good.
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