Avast.de Hacked And Defaced – 20,000 User Accounts Leaked

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  1. King Grub

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  2. vlk

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    Ugly, even though Avast never owned this domain (it belongs to a German reseller of the Avast products).

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  3. Macstorm

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    :eek: A notice to affected customers is urgently required!
     
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    This is the site of a Reseller it isn't Avast.
    There is a difference.
     
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    Still, not everybody knows that....
     
  6. The Red Moon

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    Title of this thread could of been a bit more subtle,:shifty:
     
  7. SweX

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    LOL it is always the resellers sites that gets hacked, it's time they shape up, or the vendors may not be too happy keeping them as a reseller for much longer :)
     
  8. King Grub

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    It is the headline of the website article.
     
  9. RejZoR

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    And is completelly wrong. Only avast! webpage is avast.com. All the others are given to distributors. So you can't say avast! webpage got hacked if its not an avast! webpage...
     
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    Thanks for correcting that...as usual, false media reports deceive the reader.
     
  11. The Red Moon

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    An avast team member in post 2 has made everything clear so why still the big debate?:mad:
     
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    Because Wilders is a typical internet forum, and as such often displays the same type of behavior as all other internet forums?

    Anyway, I'm glad Avast itself didn't get hit. But yeah, this happens way too much to these resellers. Moral of this story should be always put in some fake phone number (No vendor is ever going to call you until and unless you call them first. Why no one understands this I don't know), use 10Minute Mail or a similar service whenever you can get away with it (probably 80+ percent of the time) and for the love of God stay away from the gigantic bulls eye that is PayPal. If a vendor or services forces PayPal, look for another alternative service before you bite the bullet.
     
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    Interesting discussion re semantics, isnt the point that users trusting of the name AVAST have been totalled. ??

    Seems pretty serious to me.

    It looks like this is a business passing $$ back to Avast

    From and end users perspective, i would think that Avast does in fact have some responsibility for conduct of resellers/agents.

    Compare this to any retail set-up.
     
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    There's quite a difference between bad conduct and bad security. Avast isn't and can't be held responsible for the bad security practices of some other company. Of course it's giving money to Avast..it's an affiliated, authorized reseller. User trust in Avast could not reasonably be "totaled" for the very reasons I just mentioned. I don't know why this is so shocking, all of these hacks and stolen data instances have been a long time coming. Websites have suffered from lazy, inexperienced devs since the WWW came into being and the progression of data collection has made hackers grin from ear to ear.
     
  15. The Red Moon

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    It is comments like yours that dont make the issue any easier.Go to the avast forum and ask for clarification instead of false scaremongering.:ninja:
     
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    I thought we were dropping this discussion since an Avast member made everything clear? :D Regardless, Longboard's post wasn't "scaremongering", it's just incorrect. This isn't an "Avast issue", so I think it needs to stop being treated as one. Some 3rd party reseller didn't have its ~ Snipped as per TOS ~ together and now customers are paying for it. That's the story in a nutshell, and a story that's become so common it has almost gotten as funny as it has sad.
     
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  17. Longboard

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    Correct, thankyou.

    I use Avast on my Android devices.

    Everyone here understands this is not a trust issue for the product or Avast itself.

    The problem as noted is with the reseller and its' security.

    However, if there is a commercial relationship with resellers then it behooves the parent compant to be aware of potential issues with same.

    No argument there.
    I note that Procello http://www.procello.de/ is a reseller for other well known brands.

    I am not sure their web devs are lazy and inexperienced ??

    I am sure their security will be scrutinized by all those companies !

    The story suggests that it was the Avast distribution page that was hacked which I suspect will cause Avast to , heh, "make some enquiries".

    I bet the other vendors are having a few meetings too.

    We all know that data security is a major issue for all of us at many levels.
     
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    Agreed! Who ever wrote the original article should have known better!
     
  19. Noob

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    I dont think the title of the thread and article is wrong.
    I mean the tile is "Avast.de Hacked And Defaced – 20,000 User Accounts Leaked" and the reality is that Avast.de was indeed hacked and user account information leaked, the only problem is that the website does not mentions that Avast.de is only a reseller of Avast products. :rolleyes:
     
  20. Longboard

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    Procello has responded
    http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=de&to=en&a=http://www.procello.de/

    From my POV this is finished.
    Good discussion as ever.

    PS: just a little extra:
    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/03/12/avast_reseller_breach/

    And

    http://onsoftware.en.softonic.com/german-avast-distributor-hacked-leaking-customer-details

    Sounds like Avast is on the job: somewhat frosty relationship with one of it's resellers ?

    OK: enough from me: thx.
     
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