First, I don’t think debating Stefan’s value, is even debatable. He is a leader, as IC and Marcos, like others, in making our AV products what they are today. So proll, lets just end it their, ok. This thread was about statistics and that is where it should continue. Second, if you are going to make statements about an AV ability to deal with a packer, then please state specifics and not a generalization, otherwise, it is just a personal attack ageist an individual.