Av-Comparatives February '08

Where is it? Shouldn't it be out by now?

 

These are tests made in February 2008 , results are always published the next month (so we should expect results on 01 March 2008 ) . Perhaps QA of August 2007 test-set & corrections article will appear soon

 

Nope, not until 1'st of march 08

 

And it's a leap year so it means an extra day of waiting...

 

Oh ok, then let's wait for 1 more month...

 

no acutally, it comes out on 29 feburary, 11:31pm. serious.

 

Hi
Do your lives revolve around tests run on AV software?bet none of you can sleep with anticipation!(lol)

 

For some, apparently.
"AV-comparatives proactive test predictions" thread yielded >100 posts!
The "results" thread prompted 286 posts.
I guess it's understandable that some here are passionate.

 

Looking forward to this coming round and to what it will bring. The overall view may tighten up a little bit and make it very interesting, as always.

 

Even more interesting considering some of the exchanges in the recent "DrWeb and AV Comparatives" thread.

 

well personally, I am looking forward to some new blood being tested.

 

The arguments against av-comparatives by a certain individual had many holes, and I wouldn't take them seriously.

 

Those arguments aren't forth much even though some of them were posted by experts. If some AVs could show a steady track record and also improvements (not that small ones), why others can't? Yes, garbage files. Very bad excuse.
Waiting new results patiently. They were always very useful, realistic and objective. Something i always expect (and get) from IBK.

 

Very true RejZor.

 

I see this thread traveling down the "is this reputable" path. I am not laying any blame anywhere, but the damage is done. I hope that the differences can be rectified and everyone use these tests as they are intended; that is being a piece of the larger picture to help you make an informed decision.

 

are the av companies really gonna disclose
thier information on a public forum?

 

I don't suppose so, but why would this be private and all hushed up if the grievances are legitimate?

Even more importantly, why would obviously incorrect statements be offered as the explanation?

No wonder the AV companies are gagging their errant employees. They're revealing too much, especially when you read between the lines.

 

Until a mod decides to close the thread, as happens way too often.

 

Frankly, with me it's a love/hate relationship...

+++I hate tight management (especially if I'm one of the ones getting managed)
BUT
+++I love the fact that this forum minimizes spam, trolls, personal insults, & mis-information
ERGO
+++Net result is a friendly community of helpful & (in many cases) knowledgeable folks.

Since the above comments were a tad OT, I hasten to add...

I am really looking forward to VBA32 being included in AV-C's tests. I am convinced that VBA's inclusion will ultimately enhance their already "decent" detection rates.

 

Well, it could be worse! They could be deleting all "thorny" and "uncomfortable" discussions, that the "plebes" shouldn't know about. Some things, better keep them under the carpet.

Well, it's in the TOS "Further, by posting you grant Wilders Security Forums perpetual and non-exclusive right to copy, display, modify, alter, delete, transmit, and distribute any content posted by you."

But, seeing which discussions are being locked or deleted, can be educative too.

 

can't wait to see what Avast! will do in this new test. I've got the strong impression that it's improved a lot (I ran a scan with Kaspersky and it didn't find any bugs compared to Avast!). The only thing that keeps slipping in are trojans... that's the only weak point I found until now ... but let's wait and see shall we?

 

Tests like AV Digestives are becoming more and more irrelevant when used to test modern AV products. They only test one aspect.. flat file scanning. A user doesn't copy a million malicious files to the disk. In doing so you bypass most layers of a product's protection.

Marx is at least making some effort to change his testing methodology.. hopefully Clementi will follow or very soon the AMTSO will start discrediting the test results of anyone that doesn't conform.

I for one know that for my kind of internet usage where I never open exes, products that excel in fast turnaround on sigantures/heuristic etc are of no value. I want the best protection against vulnerabilities both in the browser and in 3rd party ActiveX and 3rd party Applications. Thats because I know that while my machine is up to date with the latest Windows Updates, its next to impossible to know taht every other piece of software on my machine is patched. Therefore IPS and Browser protection are the most important to me.. Av-Comparatives results are irrelevant for now.