AV Comparatives - August 2007 report

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  1. the Tester

    the Tester Registered Member

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    Re: AV Comparatives is Almost Due

    I noticed that polymorphic result too. I thought that AVG Antimalware would have done better in the polymorphic category also.

    Interesting reading!
     
  2. trjam

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    Re: AV Comparatives is Almost Due

    Why? Could it also be that Dr. Web spent more time decorating their new offices then investing their time in improving their product. I mean come on Chris, Eset has dropped because of all the time they are investing in their buggy suite. Ask Dr. Web what the hell is going on. In fact, Igor has been invisible of late. I say this with all due respect, but you owe them nothing and if you want something different then hell, just let me know. I have a sweet present you might like that starts next week. But if it smells like crap, well then,,,,,,,,,,
     
  3. C.S.J

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    Re: AV Comparatives is Almost Due

    i certainly will ask them, and see what they have to say. :)

    but im not 100%, i really cant believe that the new technology adds zero to its detection, beta or not.
     
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    Re: AV Comparatives is Almost Due

    have you read my comment above to your comment about zero improvement or did you prefer to ignore it? :p
     
  5. The Hammer

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    Re: AV Comparatives is Almost Due

    Actually Eset inproved in it's overall score and rating from the last on demand test.
     
  6. C.S.J

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    Re: AV Comparatives is Almost Due

    i read it.
     
  7. Thug21

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    Very interesting... It's good to see AVG moving up and Avira still maintaining that nice score.


    Thanks for the hard work, IBK.
     
  8. JerryM

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    Re: AV Comparatives is Almost Due

    I find some difficulty in thinking that Dr Web's showing was in any way the fault of IBK's test methods.o_O Everyone was subject to the same test conditions and threats.

    I also must admit that I do not understand the loyalty of users when there are so many other AVs that score significantly better.

    I have been more surprised by the performance of AVGAM than any other. AVG seems to have found the key to significant improved performance. Maybe my choice of the "lifetime" upgrade to AVGAM was not a bad decision.

    My favorite free AV, Avast, continues to be adequate, but I would want to run a good AS, such as SAS, along with it realtime.

    I am beginning to like the suites, and wonder if the suites would score differently considering that they have some additional components.

    Thanks, IBK for an interesting and informative test.

    Regards,
    Jerry
     
  9. trjam

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    Re: AV Comparatives is Almost Due

    Whatchu talking bout Willis?:D
     
  10. rothko

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    eh? are you comparing the last on-demand test (feb) with this one? dr web and nod32 have gained (albeit slightly) and f-secure has dropped in % (and from 4th to 8th place).

    and OT - Eset's suite is in beta.
     
  11. Joe_Jones

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    Re: AV Comparatives is Almost Due

    Strange that nobody speaks about Trustport Workstation?

    Trustport Workstation found the most malware of all products.
    So a happy customer here, it seems that i have bought the right product.

    The only thing i dislike about it, is that just after i bought the product they dropped the price.
    For the record, it uses the Ewido, BitDefender, AVG and Norman engines.
    And i don't know how they did it, but the performance is great.

    It is sad, that even if a less known product ends as the best in a test,
    everybody only looks at the familiar names and products.

    ~ snip ~
     
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  12. midway40

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    Re: AV Comparatives is Almost Due

    Thanks IBK :) I now await February's test to see how Symantec 2008 fares.
     
  13. Miyagi

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    As always, thank you for providing the comprehensive test IBK! Rather than complaining here and there, you deserve a BIG ice-cream. :-*
     
  14. Graystoke

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    Re: AV Comparatives is Almost Due

    Once again, 2 :thumb: to AVG AM scoring Advance +. My only concern is it's low showing in detecting Polymorphic Viruses. Even M$ OneCare did better. I basically know what polymorphic viruses are. What I need to know is, should I be concerned with AVG's low detection rate of polymorphic viruses?
     
  15. C.S.J

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    if it was any use, it would have lowered the rating.

    it must not be significant enough to lower the rating, so i wouldn't worry.
     
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    Re: AV Comparatives is Almost Due


    You've got a point there. Never thought of it that way.
     
  17. Lucy

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    Why not reading the second part of the report to understand the meaning and the consequences of polymorphic virii detection? All is already explained...
     
  18. mvdu

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    The big surprise is Norton overtaking Kaspersky. I'm not sure I'd move to Norton from AntiVir because of one test, but it is interesting. I like Norton's firewall more than Avira's, and hope Avira improves its firewall soon. Norton still doesn't seem to react as quickly to new threats as Kaspersky and AntiVir, at least going by the CastleCops malware submittal forum.
     
  19. tawd1992

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    Re: AV Comparatives is Almost Due

    Do Avast Pro & the Home edition have similar detection rates? How much of a difference is there between AVG Anti-Malware & AVG free? I can understand why these companies want their best products tested & that's fine, but it sure would be nice to see the exact difference between the free & pay versions. Maybe the free versions could be added to the next test.
     
  20. the Tester

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    Re: AV Comparatives is Almost Due

    I wonder how AVG antivirus would do?

    Thanks BZJet for mentioning page 2 of the report regarding the importance of polymorphic detections.:thumb:
    That's a clear explanation of the subject.
     
  21. Macstorm

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    Re: AV Comparatives is Almost Due

    Bravo Kaspersky! :thumb: ....as always..

    also my favorite AVK 2007 is deposed from top 1st uhmmm :shifty:
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  22. Thug21

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    Re: AV Comparatives is Almost Due

    Shouldn't be any difference between Avast home (free) and the pro version.


    There is likely a good sized difference between AVG free (which has 0 spyware detection) and AVG Anti-Malware which has the Ewido antispyware engine built in. AVG pro is somewhere in between those 2 versions.

    I am also curious as to how AVG pro 7.5 preforms on its own.
     
  23. randomness

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    Re: AV Comparatives is Almost Due

    Yea, I agree - I know many people who do use a free versions of some antivirus products and who would be interested to know this difference (as well as difference between different brands of free antivirus products).
     
  24. lucas1985

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    Re: AV Comparatives is Almost Due

    I wasn't surprised by the results, excepting AVG (huge improvement) and DrWeb (I thought that the new engine would give it better detection but it's obvious that we should wait for signatures once 4.44 is released)
    Well done Andreas and one question: How many FPs (approximately) does Fortinet have with its heuristics disabled?
     
  25. JerryM

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    Re: AV Comparatives is Almost Due

    I suspect that the on demand tests prior to the testing of AVGAM would be some indication. If I remember correctly AVG in those days was slightly below Avast. I think the results would be similar.

    I would go back to the tests that Firefighter ran in 2004 where he tested some AVs without any layering and then added Ewido and a-squared. The addition of the AT applications really helped some of them. The major help was with those AVs that were weaker in trojan detection.
    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=58597

    At least that is my take on the free vs paid AVG.

    Regards,
    Jerry


    Best,
    Jerry
     
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