AppGuard 4.x 32/64 Bit - Releases

Discussion in 'other anti-malware software' started by Jryder54, Oct 29, 2013.

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  1. jmonge

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    thank you
     
  2. Cutting_Edgetech

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    I know Faronics AE makes it optional to enable monitoring of .dll, and .jar files. I really hadn't given .jar files much thought before since I hadn't seen a .jar file that would run as an application by clicking on it like this flashcard app.
     
  3. Peter2150

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    If it's updating itself, I would do that manually and just turn off Appguard off. As for the other update locations you can go to the guarded apps tab, then click the settings button, and add those folders in there. Before to give then read/write access.

    Pete

    PS I have nothing but the default item in Power Apps.
     
  4. Cutting_Edgetech

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    Your welcome.
     
  5. rdsu

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    I started to use this program few days ago...

    Can you suggest where and what programs should we use here and there?

    What about import/export feature?
     
  6. KaptainBug

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    To put it simple, add all internet connecting apps, browsers, office suites, pdf viewers, instant messengers etc as guarded app.
     
  7. Barb_C

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    I know several people who run in Locked Down all the time with no problems.
     
  8. Barb_C

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    I hear you. We are considering a wild card feature for power app policy.

    That being said, with our patented inheritance of policy, if you can determine the parent application, you should only have to enter the parent application. Any application that is launched by a power app is also a power app.
     
  9. Barb_C

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    AppGuard should not have blocked these unless Avira is a Guarded app or if it is launching user-space apps. You could add Avira as trusted publisher as well. This usually solves update issues.
     
  10. Cutting_Edgetech

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    Barb, DoctorPC said he had Avira listed on the Trusted Publishers List with Guarded set to "NO". He could also make sure he has the following Trusted Publisher settings: Privacy: OFF, Memory: OFF, and Install: Allow. He can also add Avira as a Power App, but I think he may have already done that since it was recommended to him.
     
  11. DoctorPC

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    That's really good to know!

    My wife called me today in a panic. Something was blocking her PERRLA application, and access to her University stuff online.. Combo, an over aggressive parental filter on Adguard, and Appguard blocking PERRLA's modifications of Scripts for Word. I assume adding parent PERRLA will resolve that. Appguard can be frightening to some folks when it blocks legitimate applications - I have found.. But once those issues are worked through, I think it will be fine.
     
  12. DoctorPC

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    I've found an application that will not run with Appguard installed. Even when I place the application into 'Power Application' mode.

    PERRLA is used by my wife and I getting our doctorates for formatting in APA/MLA in Microsoft Word. It's something we use constantly, and is actually a pretty popular formatting program. It's not signed, so I cannot add it to trusted publisher. When added to power user it allows it to run, but there is a Run-Time-Error within Microsoft Word. Uninstalling Appguard allows it to run correctly again. Given Power-Application is the overall highest level of exclusion for a program I am not finding the cause of this.

    Any suggestions? I've had to remove Appguard from PC's we use for APA/MLA formatting papers.

    https://www.perrla.com/APADetails.aspx
     
  13. KaptainBug

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    You can run PERRLA as a standalone program but when you start Microsoft Word, word is a guarded program, so all childs are guarded, I guess. Try removing word from guarded app. It should resolve the issue.
     
  14. rdsu

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    Thanks ;-)
     
  15. DoctorPC

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    Ahh yes, I had not thought about it coming under Word as guarded once it injects itself into Word. That makes total sense. I will try that this evening, as my wife has to do a paper on Eskimo cultures health. o_O

    Edit: Word isn't guarded, and Microsoft is listed as a Trusted Publisher. I will try adding Word as a power-application, and see what gives.
     
  16. Barb_C

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    Will you send me a copy of the blocking events that you're seeing (AppGuard@BlueRidge.com)? It would be best if you could send me the Windows Event Log (just sending the AppGuard events should be enough) because I need to see the paths of the executables involved - they're available in the AppGuard GUI as well, with the "Message Info" feature if you would prefer to provide it to me that way.

    Thanks!
     
  17. Barb_C

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    Have you seen this review of AppGuard in PC Magazine?

    www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2453347,00.asp

    I think it's a fair assessment, but I really want to shoot for 5 stars next time!

    Two of the issues that the article mentioned have already been addressed in the AOL version (Firefox update and user feedback when a launch is blocked). Our auto-install mode should also help when installing or running other AOL partner products from user-space, BUT that being said I'd like to reach out to you to see if you have any other suggestions on how we can make the product more user-friendly and less intimidating to the average (and not so average) user.

    One thing that was suggested by someone here a Wilder's during the last beta was incorporated into the AOL version: We put the trusted publisher list on the user-space tab. Since the trusted publishers list only applies to user-space apps, that definitely made sense.

    BTW, the Windows update problem that the author of the review encountered baffles us. Nobody at Blue Ridge sees those issues - and I don't recall seeing them reported here either (but based on recent discussions it sounds like most of you do not do automatic updates). I've heard reports that sometimes XP updates can be an issue (but I guess those are going to go away this Spring so hopefully that will reduce those issues :)). My theory is that the author ran the update from the control panel which invokes the update through IE - we actually have a help topic on that. The auto-install feature might help here, BUT we intentionally did not set Microsoft as an "auto-install" publisher. Our fear was that AppGuard might always be in the Install Mode.

    For those who don't want to search for the post where I explained auto-install: There is a new setting on the publisher list where you can specify that AppGuard should automatically go to the install level whenever an application signed by that publisher is launched from user-space.

    Also, the Firefox issue was due to their updater using a different digital cert. Unfortunately because there is a bug in the publisher list "add" logic, you aren't able to add it to the policy through the GUI (you could do it through an xml editor - NOT RECOMMENDED though). The new cert is added to the policy and the "add" bug is fixed in the AOL release (and shortly in AppGuard 4.1!).

    Anyway, in case you've forgotten my question after my long-windedness, please, if you have any suggestions on how we can make AppGuard better (more user-friendly and less intimidating) for both populations (Wilders and AOL), I'm all ears!
     
  18. molhopicante

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    Hi Barb_C.

    I'm see You online, so please, let me make You a question.

    I had one license for 3 PCs.

    Some weeks ago, i bought another license for 3 PCs.

    It's possible to merge licenses and have one ID/Pass for the 6PCs?

    Now i have two different ID/Pass.

    Thanks.
     
  19. rdsu

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    Great Job!!!

    I started to use your program almost a week ago, and I just love it!
    Was just what I was looking for...

    I already suggested import/export feature. Not useful for protection, but for configuration...

    Keep on going! ;)
     
  20. KaptainBug

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    I suggested having a shortcut key to toggle protection level in cyclic manner. Pretty small but I think it should be very convenient to the user.
     
  21. chris1341

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    Go for it BRN but don't sell your soul to please this guy. AppGuard is an excellent product. You can't make it what he wants (users abdicating responsibility for what they in stall) without trimming back on the limitations you currently apply. Since version 4 I've never seen a program I 'can't get to work'.

    He couldn't get infected using AppGuard. If he could he'd have let us know. Enough said.

    His insistence that AppGuard needs to be used in conjunction with a traditional AV depresses me. I know you probably recommend it but if you have an idea of what Malware is and what it does you 'really, really' don't need it , in real time at any rate. Layer protection? Yes, absolutely. AV as one of those layers? Mmmm......

    Getting 5 stars from Rubiking will be good commercially but you've already got a 5 star product as far as I'm concerned. Keep the principles you've built it on and the future's bright :thumb:

    Cheers
     
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    I would say AG should build a whitelist of applications already on AOL user's machines, but that is not possible with AG. Maybe you can figure out a way to do it, but big changes to AG would definitely have to be made.
     
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    Maybe I should put AG on my moms computer, and see what happens lol If she can use it then just about anyone can lol She could at least give me feedback about what confuses her about it.
     
  25. DoctorPC

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    I have it on a few machines where 'anything goes'.. So we will see. Although we haven't experienced any infections in well over 2 years since my protocols, including HTTP/HTTPS scanning by 6-7 different engines prior to access into the PC. Most stuff is blocked at the doorway. (Roughly 2.5 billion IP's blocked)

    PERRLA issue was found, PERRLA was making a call outside of WORD to a database, and Word was under protected status. Removing protected Status of WORD fixed it, Perrla runs fun now. That's the only major headache so far on about a half dozen machines.
     
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