Anyone have experience with Perfect Privacy's NeuroRouting?

Discussion in 'privacy technology' started by mirimir, Jan 17, 2020.

  1. mirimir

    mirimir Registered Member

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    https://www.perfect-privacy.com/en/features/neurorouting

    It's a little heavy on hype, but indeed pretty cool. Except that you're still stuck trusting Perfect Privacy.

    But I'm curious about performance.

    And it could go at the end of a nested VPN chain :)
     
  2. imdb

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    i'd stay away from pp, because of their ties with neo-nazi groups. :isay:
     
  3. mirimir

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    Huh?

    There are certainly lots of neo-Nazi affiliate links out there for Perfect Privacy.

    But what's the evidence that Perfect Privacy itself has ties to neo-Nazi groups?

    I vaguely recall lots of angst on Wilders about VPNs with neo-Nazi ties. But it's not at all surprising that German neo-Nazis would use VPNs to evade censorship. Just like anti-Putin activists in Russia use VPNs. Or Chinese evading the Great Firewall. Or dark markets and child pornographers using Tor.
     
  4. hawki

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    FWIW:

    "Perfect Privacy VPN Review...

    An Ugly Response to an Ugly History

    As part of our research preparing for this review, we discovered Perfect Privacy was once run by a group of Neo-Nazis. You can read about it in this 2014 article, or this one from 2012.

    Those Neo-Nazi members are no longer part of the organization… at least, allegedly. They were all arrested in 2013, but very little else has come to the surface since then..."

    https://thevpnshop.com/reviews/perfect-privacy-vpn-review/
     
  5. imdb

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    https://medium.com/@winstonsmith_/the-problem-with-vpns-c22c9c82cf13


    https://constantinereport.com/austr...isvpn-provider-perfect-privacy-run-neo-nazis/

    https://securitygladiators.com/perfect-privacy/

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/sep/30/stormfront-webs-oldest-white-supremacist-site-reem/

    https://www.zeit.de/gesellschaft/zeitgeschehen/2012-09/neonazi-website-admin-robert-m/seite-2

    https://www.oe24.at/oesterreich/chronik/Kuessel-entschlaegt-sich-jeder-Aussage/66893412
     
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  6. mirimir

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    Huh. And yeah, 2017 isn't that long ago.

    But then, maybe the question becomes whether a neo-Nazi affiliated VPN service can be secure for its users who aren't neo-Nazis.

    And if -- let's say for very good reasons -- neo-Nazis are being rooted out, maybe they're motivated to develop secure VPN services.

    It seems clear that their OPSEC was insufficient ;)

    But anyway, I'm just curious about how well NeuroRouting works.
     
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  8. imdb

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    thanks for the correction. edited my post.
     
  9. mirimir

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    Asking around, I hear that Perfect Privacy purged the neo-Nazis in 2013 or so.
     
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