Anti-Executable

Discussion in 'other anti-malware software' started by LoneWolf, Apr 12, 2007.

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  1. ErikAlbert

    ErikAlbert Registered Member

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    FDISR can also be used as a multi-bootable system, but only for these Operating Systems : win2000pro, winXPhome, winXPpro and winVISTA. Each OS can be installed in a separate snapshot. Any other OS isn't possible in FDISR.
    I guess Virtual PC can handle ANY operating system and that is of course better.
     
  2. Meriadoc

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    Well I have computers that just have virtual machines, or open vm to full screen straigh off, then again I have machines with FD-ISR and vms.
    Erik, I say for knowledge down Virtual PC, VMWare, Parallels or Virtual Box and have a look.:)
     
  3. ErikAlbert

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    I will ever try them, but I don't need them at this moment. I use FDISR for all my testings. I have 8 snapshots extra and I can save any possible situation in an archived snapshot, if I don't have time enough to finish the testing.
    I need a good reason, before I install software permanently.
    If everything goes wrong, I recover my computer. Peanuts.
     
  4. farmerlee

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    I just really like how i can run multiple windows/linux os's simultaneously and switching between them is simply the click of a mouse button. Plus you change things up, reboot as many times as you like and if in the end you don't like it simply discard all changes and your squeeky clean os is back. Plus its free so i can't complain :)
     
  5. lucas1985

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    Virtual machines are ideal for testing:
    - nLite builds.
    - OS tweaks.
    - Applications.
    - Linux/Unix flavours.
    You can also do "dangerous" things like malware/PoC tests, browsing the "dark side", etc.
     
  6. ErikAlbert

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    I know, but I don't need those things, maybe much later. I stick to my plan, because my system still needs polishing and I'm not interested in Linux.
    It's alot more interesting to protect the most attacked OS in the world, than Linux. Linux is no challenge for me.
    In all my threads, I read Linux, Virtual Machines and PowerShadow. Is it because they are free or what ? :D
     
  7. lucas1985

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    Freeware attracts people, but it's good software who generates love in us ;)
    How do you test your nLite builds? Doesn't AE interfere in creating them?
     
  8. ErikAlbert

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    Yes I wrote even a post about it to warn people. I didn't consider this as a problem. I just restored my computer with an image and I was back in business. That wasn't the first time. It happened more than once.
    I don't solve my problems with installing new softwares, I solve my problems with the softwares I already have.

    I'm not working on a test environment, I'm working on a clean work environment, something that can be used in practice.
    I don't see average users working with Virtual PC or VMware. They don't need these virtual machines, they WORK, they don't TEST.
    Our goals seem to be totally different.
     
  9. Peter2150

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    Each has it's place. I dedicate one of my desktops to business during the day. The other I use for financial trading, so I wouldn't want to reboot it during the day. The VM machine gives me a test bed that I can do anything on, and reboot, and not disturb the host. Later FDISR comes into play for testing on the host.

    When you work with a VM machine you will find it offers the same kind of dynamic use FDISR does, but different. I love em both.
     
  10. ErikAlbert

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    OK. I know enough. I can't use virtual machines on a production machine, only on test machines, that's a total different world.
     
  11. Meriadoc

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    I see this every day, they work on virtual desktops.:)
    Sure u can.
     
  12. Riverrun

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    This is a most interesting, informative and educational thread. Erik's exposition upon FDISR and the questions and comments made by other people have so impressed me that I've gone and downloaded the software. I spent 20 hours at the weekend recovering my system after making a careless move. It's back together now but, phew, what a waste of time.

    I'm leaving the install until tomorrow hope I can get the hang of FD quickly.

    Cheers all.

    :thumb:
     
  13. ErikAlbert

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    Once you have, Image Backup + Immediate System Recovery + External harddisk, you stay out of trouble and you can recover from any possible disaster, if you do and use it right.
    I learned alot from the disaster posts at SWI and Wilders.
     
  14. EASTER.2010

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    Same here. Nice and very useful combo, without a doubt. Exciting for me because i never knew a program like FD would ever offer what it does and safely plus very quick!

    I know this is a AE Topic and it's also a program that i have had personal experience with myself a few years ago so i know it's security potential is very formidable. I especially enjoy reviewing discussion on programs like this because i realize that this technology is vastly improved from it's origins at the beginning.
     
  15. ErikAlbert

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    Well the thread surely went off topic. Many subjects and other softwares have been discussed, hardly AE. Each time a pay software is the subject, they start discussing freewares. I never consider freeware or payware, I look at what it can do for me.
    Comparing EL and AE was a waste of time, EL has no development anymore, why care about EL, it's a freeware without future.
    I need AE to stop the installation/execution of unauthorized executables IMMEDIATELY and it does that job in a very easy way.
    This is much better than detecting and removing the malware with a scanner.
    I only want a minimum of infections during the day and they are all gone after reboot.
    I hate all these cheap, insufficient and even 'dangerous' solutions.
     
  16. Mrkvonic

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    Hello,
    You are not addressing the most important issue, Erik.
    Why would you have any infections in the first place? This is the subject you should focus on. If you need AE to stop unauthorized executables, you have a different kind of problem.
    Mrk
     
  17. ErikAlbert

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    What kind of problem ? I'm very curious.
     
  18. farmerlee

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    I use all that as well as an extra external hdd. One is for all my experiments and temporary backups and the other for permanent and emergency backups. No chances taken here :)
     
  19. ErikAlbert

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    Because Faronics' Website/Manual are talking about recognizing more than 80 executables, while only 9 executables are mentioned, I asked their support by email for a complete list of 80+ executables.

    This is their reply :
    Not really an answer to my question. Giving straight answers seems to be difficult nowadays, even when you ask the right people. :rolleyes:
     
  20. EASTER.2010

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    Maybe Erik because it's a Faronic's trade secret :ninja: , ever think of that?
     
  21. aigle

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    What r these 9 types?
    I wonder howmany types of Windows Executables are?
    What if a malware is a brand new type of executable itself? It will blow away all HIPS?

    @Eric!
    I wonder why don,t u use a Mac and no worries of malware/ AE/ frozen/ unfroozen things.
     
  22. EASTER.2010

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    Classic case of Xtreme paranoia. It's a common ailment courtesy $M of those who have been once bitten a million times shy. Changes some users lives till they see even common shadows as a possible threat to their machine's existence. :D
     
  23. ErikAlbert

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    Because Mac would bore me to death, just like Linux.
    Windows is a challenge. I said this already so many times at Wilders.
     
  24. ErikAlbert

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    Of course I thought about that, if they mentioned 9 executables already, they can mention the rest as well.
    Don't you think, that the bad guys knows these executables as well ?
     
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  25. ErikAlbert

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    Just like Windows fails all the time when it comes to security, ALL security softwares fail all the time also, because they don't recognize malware always.
    A frozen snapshot doesn't need to recognize malwares, it recognizes CHANGES on your harddisk and removes them.
    You are focussed on security softwares and their failures, I don't, because I know already they fail and will fail again. I just remove their failures as CHANGES on my harddisk.
    My goal with AE is to minimize the risk of installation of malwares and when AE fails and it will fail, I remove AE's failures as CHANGES on my harddisk.
    It doesn't really matter how good or bad my security softwares are, I try to choose the best to save the day, but nothing more than that.
    How many times do I have to repeat this ? If you don't get it, ignore my methods and use your own methods. Until now, I'm doing fine and it isn't even polished. :)
     
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