Anonymous Wants Internet Blackout, Targets 13 "Root" DNS Servers

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  1. mack_guy911

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    I can understand and agree with some of their expressed motives, but their methods and choice of targets leave a lot to be desired.
    Assuming (and that's a big if) they can pull this off, this will draw attention, but it won't get them any support. If anything, it will have the opposite effect and will strengthen the hand of those they're opposing.
     
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    Then, it's controlled opposition? Cointelpro amongst? Wolves in sheep's clothing.
     
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    IT's been speculated plenty that Anon is just the government making excuses for further control.

    The thing is that this has been done before - the root DNS servers have been attacked multiple times in the past. This isn't new.
     
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    When I look at their stated goals and many of their attacks and the agendas behind them, it looks to be the actions of 2 completely separate groups. Attacks on specific organizations make sense and fit their stated agendas. Attacks on root DNS servers does not. I'm quite inclined to believe that attacks like this one are not being done by the actual group, but are done by some of those whose toes they've stomped on. This way, they can label them as terrorists and cover up what they and other groups have been trying to expose. I wouldn't put it past government to perform such an attack in their name just to justify their actions and steer support away from them.
     
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    It's a lot more than 2 separate groups. Anonymous is fluid, there are no real groups or leaders or singular goals. It's a title, really, and that's about it.
     
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    Finally, experts claim that a successful DDOS attack on the root DNS serves is possible, but it’s not only hard to achieve, but the results wouldn’t be felt by regular Internet users.

    Also, F-Secure’s Mikko Hypponen pointed to a 2007 article from ICANN in which it’s clearly stated that in reality there are not only 13 root servers as the myth says, but over 130 physical locations spread out in many countries of the world.


    This sounds more like it.
     
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    I think this is more than that. Yes, there are several groups acting under that name with varying goals and motives. Some aim at specific targets with very specific goals in mind. Others want the attention and to be associated with the name. These aside, I'm convinced that there's another group acting in their name doing and planning things that help no one and serve no purpose other than to get them labelled as everyones enemy or terrorists. It wouldn't surprise me a bit to find governments doing such things in their name.

    Even with the wide variances in the groups using that name, they have things in common which can be seen in their choices of targets, including anything that's anti-piracy, big money control, taunting government and private spying, embarrasing law enforcement, exposing big money/government collaboration, etc. Ideas like taking down the internet are completely inconsistent with their other activities. This doesn't fit any of the groups using the Anonymous name. It wouldn't gain them any support of any kind and in many ways, works against their other stated goals. They can't expose government, big money, or law enforcements dirty laundry by preventing others from getting access to it.

    IMO, this is nothing more than a ploy to get them labelled as terrorists.
     
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    This is really right up there alley though.

    If it were the gov't I'd expect more stuxnet like stunts (Since that was the government.)

    They arne't taking down th einternet. IT's a blackout for a short period of time. They made that pretty clear.

    It's hard to talk about what Anon is or is not like because they vary from hacking Sony over some PS3 lawsuit to trying to hack sites they have an e-grudge against.

    It could be the government I just don't see it.
     
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    I see it as government creating a short term disruption in internet service and using them as a scapegoat in order to justify more control, more monitoring and censorship, more anti-piracy legislation, and more anti-terrorism activity on the web. View the threatened action (taking down the web) and the expected reaction to that threat. It's clear who that benefits, and it's not Anonymous.
     
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    That's one way to see it. Or it's a group of hackers who are known for blacking out sites doing the same thing on a larger scale as their way to protest. They're a "hacktivist" group. Taking sites down as a means to protest is like... their #1 gimmick.
     
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    Sites, yes. That often gets combined with postings of what they found there or just for the purpose of bragging about it. Big difference between taking down sites and taking down the web. Even that motive makes no sense when applied to the entire web, even if it's temporary.
     
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    I've speculated the same thing. I can't imagine any group of hackers actually having the success rate they do. It would take more technical skill than what 99.999% of people have. I'm sure DNS servers are major targets on a daily basis. If you can own them pretty much job done. :ouch:
     
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    Just putting this out there but considering even if the attack was successful, it would have to last days, if not weeks for anyone to see the effect. Everyone is using a DNS service either provided by their ISP, some one like OpenDNS, or there own. All of these from the root servers down to your LAN cache the previous dns server(s). It would take ages to for it to move all the way down to you.
     
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    Why?

    Most of their public hacks are easy as hell to pull off. Skiddy stuff. Some of their more impressive stuff is absolutely in the reach of a typical black hat.
     
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    +1 to that. All Anon does is show how insecure companies are and uneducated there IT Departments are.
     
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    Well, not "all" they do. But the big stuff you hear about - absolutely. It's the AntiSec stuff, showing everyone how insecure the web is.

    And then there's the DDoSers who basically go around taking down websites.

    Really - the gov't could already label them terrorists, they've taken down gov't sites so many times in the past...
     
  18. x942

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    True. I think it's funny how we have the US government taking websites (illegally so far) left and right for "piracy" yet they don't touch anything like this. If they really wanted to they could probably do some major damage to anon or at least their main members. Shows where their true motives lie.
     
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    Yeah I remember when they took down the CIA website for the first time almost a year ago. People were like "Yeah, this is the last straw, the government's going to destroy them."

    But they didn't. They definitely started to, they took a few of them down but for the most part not too many arrests were made.
     
  20. mack_guy911

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    hacking become like girl next door now days LOOOL :D

    since 2011-12 when ever i see any IT security news site like softpedia security it show only horror shows :D
     
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