Anonymous Services - Can We Get A List Going And Feedback?

Discussion in 'privacy technology' started by DasFox, Nov 2, 2010.

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  1. CasperFace

    CasperFace Registered Member

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    Hmmm... Actually, I'm not quite sure if was the MamakVPN owner himself who made the claim, but it was mentioned by 'heterodyne' on page 2 of this thread: http://www.miricommunity.net/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=45881.

    Perhaps one of MamakVPN's employees / sales associates happens to know you or your staff?
     
  2. Enigm

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    Every VPN-provider who claims to use 2048-bit encryption should be on the blacklist .
    Is not the same as
    https://www.anonine.com/en/service
     
  3. bolehvpn

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    Pretty unlikely. I'm going to call them out on it. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.
     
  4. DasFox

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    Anonie's PPTP is 128 and OpenVPN 2048...

    By the way, that's pretty sad if MamakVPN is claiming to know BolehVPN, only to make it look like they have some credibility...
     
  5. Warlockz

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    So can we get an actual list of the Top 5 without having to read through 25 pages. would be nice.
     
  6. DasFox

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    This is the reply I gave before for this;

    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=2016291&postcount=586

    Which is actually better, to help educate you and understand what it is you really need to be on the look out for, which is going to go way beyond just a Top 5.

    Also just because someone is saying they're good, remember, this is a technical thing and we certainly do need to take this from a technical perspective, I'm sorry but FLUFF, need not apply, meaning, just because the speed is fast, customer service is nice, blah blah blah, it don't mean SPIT!

    So read that post, apply it and you'll be 100% better off in the long run...

    Of course I'm sure there are probably a few people that have been testing this all out that can give you some feedback on who is looking good based on this...

    Cheers...
     
  7. Warlockz

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    I was just under the impression the users in this thread have gone through and figured out which ones can be trusted over others, Im trying to avoid going through many VPN services and waist my time doing so, this is why I ask which ones are the top 5 atm that people trust the most.
     
  8. mirimir

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    Here's my list (alphabetical).

    One-hop: BolehVPN, Mullvad

    Multi-hop: Insorg, iVPN, XeroBank
     
  9. DasFox

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    Your life should not be a waste of time, by trying to keep it protected, don't take these matters so lightly...

    Also just because things looked good a few months ago when someone made a recommendation, as an example, doesn't mean things are good now.

    The truth is, even though you are still give recommendations you should read that link I posted and still follow through on this with these supposed recommended VPNs...

    Cheers
     
  10. Enigm

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    There is no such thing as 2048-bit openVPN encryption.
    The 2048-bit key is a RSA-key used during handshaking and DH key-exchange.
    OpenSSL 'only' supports keysizes up to 256 bits for the actual data-encryption.

    And here's why you don't HAVE to have 4 certificates, besides the fact that certs can be concatenated :
    http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/security-overview.html
    The problem with using a pre-shared key-cert is that it needs to be sent securely to the user somehow.
    PRQ uses PGP-emails for that purpose .
    So, how many certificates you should receive also depends on what mode the VPN-provider is running openVPN in .
    TLS-mode with username/password authentication can be just as good as using a static key .
     
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  11. caspian

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    One Hop: Right now the only one hop I have used and have an account with is Mullvad. But I will probably give Boleh a try sometime.

    Multi-Hop: CH and XB... But I am curious about this Russian VPN (Insorg). I think it would be cool to have a Russian IP. But do you know anything about the people who run the company? Just curious.

    About iVPN. Does it concern you that they are a U.S. company?
     
  12. CasperFace

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    iVPN is headquartered in Malta, according to their About Us page.
     
  13. mirimir

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    No, I don't know anything about the operators. Insorg has been around for years, initially focusing on the Russian market. If they were evil, I think that we would know by now. People joke that they're Russian mafia, but that would hardly be unique, even if it were true. Ha ha. But seriously, was John Kennedy part of the Italian mafia? I doubt it, even though there were mutual friends.

    No, it doesn't, because I never connect directly, and (presumably) they don't know who I am. I use them for US endpoints. They probably log, but everybody does, I think, whether they admit it or not. They've been dependable, and have good support. They only allow one simultaneous connection, however, which I don't like.
     
  14. caspian

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    Ooops. I guess I shouldn't look at flagfox and assume that is where the business is incorporated. Thanks for that.
     
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    I may give them a try. They are very inexpensive. Something odd though. I just went to their website and they show my IP as 41.139.116.81 Nigeria (Mobitel Nigeria Limited). Their IP app must be stuck or something. But anyway, thanks for the info. They look interesting. If I add them that will give me 4 VPNs. Although I will probably drop Mullvad and just stick with the multi-hop VPNs. I am very happy with what I have, but sometimes I need a little more bandwidth for downloading.
     
  16. Chris12923

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    @Lucid AirVPN! This is the one I use. It's great. I trust it with my life. Hardly any impact on speed. Great security & privacy. No logging. P2P friendly. Very professional outfit. Provide great support. Look no further! :) I didn't read all the pages of this thread because it's just to long but there support is outstanding and they accept bitcoins for even more anomity. Have port forwarding and multiple ports that you can use tcp or udp. This is an older thread but hopefully it helps out. You can also see the server loads which they have servers in quite a few countries.

    Hope this helps,

    Chris
     
  17. nessy90

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    Totally agree Chris over the last 6 months Ive tried 5 vpn's I found 2 that were great in the way of speed and service and their policy on logs and user privacy, the one before AirVPN did not forward ports so I changed to AirVPN a couple of days ago and will be staying with them.

    NESSY
     
  18. notthatguy

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    What service did you sign up for?
     
  19. PaulyDefran

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    Mullvad? :D

    PD
     
  20. happyyarou666

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    im with arubarocks77 on this one , you forgot the added bonus...great speeds ;)
     
  21. mirimir

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    What about bwprivacy's anonymity do you love? They just offer one-hop VPNs, it seems.
     
  22. mirimir

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    I like that :)
     
  23. bolehvpn

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    WARNING: this post rambles a bit but thought it was interesting to share our story :D

    You bring up an interesting point. Our policy all this while is to be transparent to our users since we felt it was important to know that you're dealing with real people and who would put their reputation at stake for their service. If we do breach our own principles and hand out customer data to people, you know exactly who to look for/sue/badmouth.

    We felt that the trust involved and the relationship with our customers was more important than being an anonymous provider who could just run off with your money or reveal your info to people/organizations and have no recourse.

    This policy actually has an interesting history. We started out as a personal service between my partner and I where we wanted to share the cost of a server with other people and hence launched BolehVPN back in early 2007.

    The word "Boleh" actually means "Can Do" in our language, and is actually a parody of our country's slogan which was "Malaysia Boleh" which was supposed to show that we as Malaysians can do and be world class but often turns out to be crappy :p. Our service actually grew because of the crappiness of our local ISP's policies so we were 'Bolehing' (enabling) our users.

    We remained a small provider just making ends meet with about a 100 users until a whole bunch of rival providers in our Malaysian forum suddenly over a couple of months, just abandoned ship, ran away with their customers' money and closed down. Why they did this remains a bit of a puzzle to me but from what I gathered, they were experiencing technical problems and issues with their server providers (with DMCA and shutdowns) so instead of dealing with it, decided it was easier to just bail. I can tell you there are technical difficulties (especially with the technologies available at the time) from transitioning from above 50 active users to a few hundred users ESPECIALLY when P2P is allowed (P2P generates tons of connections and it wasn't easy with the OS and hardware of the day) which was at the time the primary focus of VPNs in our country. We even had to work together with a SOCKS development team to optimize their SOCKS proxy server to handle such loads hence why we have our VPNed Proxied configurations which still remain immensely popular among our loyal customer base. It was quite a difficult time for us, since we had to figure out new solutions then to cater for a proxied p2p setup and I can say that we hardly had enough sleep with the servers continuously crashing and in some cases we had network cards burn out due to insufficient cooling (this is the first time I've heard of such ridiculous things but this was from our server hosting provider).

    The customers who were with this other providers never got recourse from these providers and it was hard to do so given that they were 'anonymous' existing only on Forum usernames. Some of the more responsible VPN providers who couldn't deal with it and the stress and wanted to exit even sold us their customer base (for those customers who wanted to switch to us). We offered free transfers of accounts for those customers who were cheated by the other VPN providers (even though if it meant incurring expenses for us) and we grew by a few hundred users in a couple of weeks.

    We stuck around, and nowadays there's still more VPN providers popping up here and there in the local Malaysian scene (some at even only 1/3 of our prices!!!!!) but we have established ourselves to be a reliable, trustworthy provider and that to us also means not hiding who we are. Whatever I say, has implications to my own reputation in real life and with that in mind, I do my best to my ability to be truthful and frank although I could have easily hidden myself behind a pseudonym.
     
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  24. chrome_sturmen

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    whoa, talk about a hiatus-- your first post in over a year, welcome back :D
    i was starting to think you'd joined erik albert o_O
     
  25. bryanjoe

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    Being forthcoming and honest are bolehvpn best attributes.
    Good job.
     
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