Why o' why did I ever enable 'automatic update' for Avast! AV.... After booting up the PC and having a myriad of connection issues, browser freeze, veeeeeery slooooooow program opening and email checker probs...I wasted 2 hours trying to diagnose and fix probs... The long and the short of it.....Avast had installed a 'program update' that added some p.o.s called the Webscanner...(making 5 resident processes rather than the previous 4) and which is enabled at startup by default. And which appears to create all kinds of probs. To add insult to injury, it disabled the Avast update altogether, so that after doing a number of system scans with Spybot, etc and Avast! I was unable to get the app to update at all...All kinds of proxy bs, proximitron probs, email connection probs., and sloooooow.. Long and short again - I disable the resident 'webscanner' via the Avast GUI, it says terminated, but nothing works. I check Process Explorer and its still runnning. So I kill it and everything worked again - dandy. But on reboot its enabled at Startup AGAIN, despite me expressly terminating it in the program settings and telling it to persist as Terminated in Avast!. Again all kinds of issues. Kill the app in the Avast Tray Icon, it says terminated, but its not. I kill it again in Process Explorer. Its finally dead. Everything works again. TILL I reboot....and its baaaaack.... Its baaaaack, despite the Avast interface telling me its dead, when it clearly is still running. I kill it, I go to Mike Lins Start Up Control and disable and delete it.....everything works until reboot and its baaaaaack.. Finally, things under control and THEN, Avast! runs its automatic update for VIRUS DEFINITIONS only (I have disabled Program updates for now) and what should pop up but RegProt window telling me that Avast! setup is writing the Startup for Webscanner to the Registry again......This is complete bullsnot at this point, so I terminate automatic virus definition updates, and finally kill the damn thing...once and for all....at least to now.... I am so pissed at this point, I may just disinstall Avast! all told. Unbelievable. No need for Replys, unless other people want to rant. I scanned the Avast! forums and there seemed to be lots of threads, but I wasn't going to register just to rant. Apparently, despite no info at all about what this Webscanner is supposed to do, it is buggering proxy connections and interfering with ports that are authourized by firewall rules.... Anyway, its dead now, and I will keep it that way... dmc PS - I had a phone call from a neighbour asking me to help because her computer has a 'virus' she thinks, 'doesn't work' and 'is crashing all the time..'. The punch line - I installed Avast! Home for her a few months back, and enable auto updates to her av .....I think I know what the 'virus' is now. Got to go over tonite and kill her Avast! Webscanner as well. No wonder simple users without technical skills hate computers...what a waste of time.... End of Rant...thanks for the chance to blow off steam.