Amon conflicting with the odd application

Let me first assure you that I'm a huge Nod32 fan, and I'm avidly looking forward to the next version.

I have a question though.

In Win 98 SE (as well as in XP) Amon causes JV16 Power Tools to take ages to start up, accompanied by mouse freezes.

I believe I saw the same thing reported for The Cleaner.

Now I noticed while installing XP that Amon and my Hp 125xi Officejet don't go together either.

Everything screeches to a halt, menus take ages to unfold, and applications take an eternity to start up.

Now I can easily prevent hpoojd07.exe, which isn't absolutely required, from starting up, and I can also briefly disable Amon before printing or scanning something, but is this issue (and I have no idea how common it really is) something which is being addressed at all for the coming version?

 

Thanks Paul.

No I totally forgot to try that...

I exluded the entire Program Files/HP folder for a start, and, true enough, the problems disappeard!

Thanks for waking me up!

Cheers,

 

Thanks again, Paul.

Incidentally, I just discovered that excluding the SpyBot folder as well significantly increases SB's scan speed.

 

Paul,
What, then would you consider safe to exclude?
Thanks,
Jack

 

> Indeed it will. That's the "design" issue I have been referring to: AMON grabs everything while executing first. By doing so, slow downs are bound to occur. In essence, IMO this design is a good thing. On the other hand, this "exclude option" has been build in for good reasons: there can be files/directories not having the need to be grabbed by the AMON. In general, I for one would be careful in determining what to exclude.

Hmmmm ... I didn't find much of a gain with SpyBot S&D ... not even with Amon disabled. (This isn't something I recommend, btw ... it was only a speed test for my own info.)

SpyBot is s-l-o-w, but it's thorough ... Patrick does a great job of keeping up with the latest pestware.

I can put up with the speed.

 

Sorry, Paul. I got distracted. For instance, is it safe to exclude things like your scanner, which Trojan Hunter, etc.? And if it hasn't already been mentioned above (I'll have to look again), how exactly do I exclude things - I looked at the screenshot for the exclusions, saw the tab, so I know that much . . .
Thanks for your thoughts.
Jack

 

Just a suggestion. Could NOD possibly make it obvious in the FAQ or elsewhere that there is this design issue with JV16Powertools, and the solutions posted above? Some of are asleep like TKlein or just plain dense, like me. With my win98, powertools just plain didn't work, and I purchased a different AV because of that.
BTW, I continue to be amazed at the quality of help on this NOD Forum. I look foward to becoming a NOD user!
Scotcov

 

rodzilla - I did get a ten-second shorter scan time from SBS&D after temporarily disabling AMON.

Cool!

I don't fault either program for the slowdown - it's just nice to know that that was part of the reason for SBS&D's lengthening scan time!

 

I have a short of list of programs that run better with Amon disabled: Trojan Hunter (live update & scanning) and JV16Powertools. My solution is to "turn" Amon off when using one of the programs and then turn it back on after I'm finished. Works for me.

I also use SpyBotS&D and have not noticed a "lag" when using it with Amon enabled. I'll test it with Amon disabled -- soon.

 

Amon also needs to be disabled with Vopt Millenium edition (defragger), as this is intense disk access.

 

Funnily, in Windows 98 neither SpyBot nor my printer have a problem with Amon.

In XP they do.

 

Did you say XP ?........

 

I think I did

I like it a lot though.

Although Win 98SE is very fast on my machine, XP is even better, and I particularly like the way it handles system resources.

It just doesn't run out.

 

Hey one more thought

Porblem with Power tools and some other apps ist their packed exe. I found amon taking a lot longer top check upx - pacekd exe than ASpack - so maybe the guy from powertools could look into that as well --))

Not so many problems on win2k

Ruben

 

I just posted an artical last night about how MS is going to make it's OS a safe and secure place even if it means breaking other software. MS says it will be up to the individual to get their other software fixed.
SO to sum it up...

MS is saying you MUST use Windows compatiable software or stop using Windows.
Does that about SUM it up there Mickey ? LOL

 

I use Xp home also(home version).I do notice that disabling Amon when I run TDS-3 improves the scanning speed of TDS-3.I haven't noticed much of a difference regarding Spybot.I haven't checked how disabling Amon effects jv16 Power Tools yet.I'll have to try try that today.