Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by ttomm1946, Jan 13, 2018.
TO is a fud spreader, ignore him in total.
Most likely I could do with an AV, I just happen to have one just in case. At home I use Eset, it has blocked a few websites but aside from that it hasn´t found anything in years.
For the good paid suites, they should help and not cause system issues or slow down the computer. Kaspersky, Bitdefender, Eset have their pros and cons but normally they don´t cause any of the problems that guy mentioned. As long as you don´t start changing vendors. Of course, I using imaging software and that´s always a huge plus. I wouldn´t go without it. Just use the AV as an extra, don´t rely on it.
But I do remember McAfee and the Spyware Doctor prior to 2010, and those were a pain ... They are indeed not all equal.
For what my opinion is worth.
Yes that was the one thing he said I could not agree with, but then maybe he likes HP's firmware key logger in his keyboard drivers lol.
Aside from that the worst computer I ever owned was HP, the best have been Dell's.
It's well known that some AVs exfiltrate information.
@mekelek hmmm, is this your contact? Lol
People need to stop with the unnecessary paranoia or I am going to have to invest in tin futures again and start selling tin-foil hats.
@Reality, lol nice catch!
Part 2, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_Vu6ZLRbu8
From the description:
and if that's not bad enough:
Microsoft Windows is a malware by itself. It takes all your personal info and nobody knows what they do with it. Google does the same. And it's all LEGAL. It's in the EULA you never read.
"By accepting this agreement and using the software you agree that Microsoft may collect, use, and disclose the information as described in the Microsoft Privacy Statement (aka.ms/privacy), and as may be described in the user interface associated with the software features."
“Microsoft collects information about you, your devices, applications and networks, and your use of those devices, applications and networks. Examples of data we collect include your name, email address, preferences and interests; browsing, search and file history; phone call and SMS data; device configuration and sensor data; and application usage.”
“We may collect information about your device and applications and use it for purposes such as determining or improving compatibility” and “use voice input features like speech-to-text, we may collect voice information and use it for purposes such as improving speech processing.”
“If you open a file, we may collect information about the file, the application used to open the file, and how long it takes any use [of] it for purposes such as improving performance, or [if you] enter text, we may collect typed characters, we may collect typed characters and use them for purposes such as improving autocomplete and spell check features.”
"When you upload, submit, store, send or receive content to or through our Services, you give Google (and those we work with) a worldwide license to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative works (such as those resulting from translations, adaptations or other changes we make so that your content works better with our Services), communicate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such content. The rights you grant in this license are for the limited purpose of operating, promoting, and improving our Services, and to develop new ones. This license continues even if you stop using our Services"
No AV can protect you.
Yes, there is that
I only use Windows in VMs. I never install from ISOs linkable to my meatspace persona. And for the most part, I only use Windows when I need to use Excel.
I am still running Dr Solomon AV on my Commodore 64. Never yet has any bad stuff gotten through.
~12 years no antivirus and no infection so yeah
This video is no longer available lol. Looks like I missed out on the fun.
an antivirus is recommended, but not mandatory for a decent (layered) security concept.
On paper maybe, in practice, malware creators already know the capabilities of AV and test their malware against them to ensure they are not detected.
The only thing AV is good for is older, known threats that will already, by that point, be in good ole Windows Defender's, definition files.
For me it is still working.
Well I still aint watching it. Kinda waiting for OP to give a reasonable intro to the thread. No AV bloat here for at least a decade. No plans on changing that.
I watched both videos, my comments are on the first one, ignoring the second. In my opinion, he does have a point when he says antiviruses in general create problems. I think they do. When you install uninstall antiviruses they make a lot of changes in your computer that eventually create problems when you update the system. Its happening with W10 right now. People who use antiviruses, in general, they install one, uninstall it a few months later, and install another and so on. By the time the computer is 2 years old, they installed uninstalled so many programs in the computer that in my opinion, problems are to be expected.
I stopped using antiviruses in 2010, I dont even run on demand scans. The result is 0 problems of any kind. This is the result of learning how to protect myself without using scanners and avoiding installing programs in the computer just for the sake of testing. I bought my W10 on July 8th last year. By the 10th, I had installed in this computer what I am going to use in it. Ever since, I haven't added any new programs in this computer. Completely static. So, adding to what the guy in the porch said, not installing programs for testing just because they are free or because they sound like a nice program is something to avoid, IMO, if you want to have a free from problems computer experience.
I also agree about Windows defender. If I was to use an AV, thats what I would be using. I am 100% on that. Why? Because antiviruses, IMO, are all about the same. The ones that are better are just a bit better than the rest. The difference regarding security is so little it doesn't make a difference which one you choose to use. The other reason why I would choose WD is because you avoid littering the computer with debri leftover by all the installing uninstalling that goes on when you go third party AV. As we all know, debris creates problems.
Well if all Wilders Members did what the Video said then everyone here would have nothing to do or say!
Thats also true .
We could make videos on our front porches about stuff we dont like...
And if you grow a full beard & wear thick horn-rimmed glasses, I will surely believe all that you say. (^_^)
Both videos are still up.
I was able to see the video
Weird the other day they were not for me at least. Good to go now though.
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