A complete security suite wanted

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  1. diddlydumdum

    diddlydumdum Registered Member

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    Hello,

    I've been using NOD32 v. 2 for about three years now and have no complaints whatsoever with it. It does precisely what it's supposed to do without any fuss.

    However, as many more qualified than I have observed, anti-virus software isn't the end all and be all of security on the Internet. I also need to use a firewall, software like Process Guard to protect the OS, and software for anonymous web-surfing in addition to registry optimisers (not because of the Internet, though).

    Given Eset's expertise in the area of anti-virus software (and the colander called Windows XP), isn't it feasible for the company to design and develop a security suite which includes a software-based firewall and the other applications listed above? A complete, holistic, co-ordinated security suite would be a welcome addition. I've no doubt there are many other users who'd like to have total security from the one trusted developer.

    Any chance of this happening, even if not in the immediate future?

    In the meanwhile, thanks for a great product, Eset.

    Regards,
    Diddlydumdum
     
  2. flyrfan111

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    There have been whispers of a suite but you have to remember Eset is relatively small compared to the big boys and increasing the functionality of the program increases support calls and such. So the more NOD does, the more support has to work on and the great support we have all come to expect would suffer somewhat. The suite rumor I heard was more along the lines of adding an established firewall to NOD as opposed to desgining one from scratch to work with NOD. Don't get overly excited, as I mentioned it was only a rumor and not a likely one at that.
     
  3. Brian N

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    - And I still hope that you can deselect any firewall/spam filter/whatever and not get any nag screens about a firewall is not installed. 99% of the 'suites' has this annoying feature. I hate that.
     
  4. Bubba

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    Where have I heard that before :eek: :gack: :shifty:
     
  5. Brian N

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    Cool, I seem to have same opinion as .. myself :-*
     
  6. Firecat

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    I'm 75% sure that NOD32 will allow you to install only the components that you wish to use without any nags, if they integrate firewall and antispam technology.
     
  7. Brian N

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    Me too, but you can never be too sure ;)
    Of course, anything they have made so far is rather perfect in my book.
    Just no nag screens and I'll be a happy camper.
     
  8. diddlydumdum

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    Thank you all for the replies.

    Let me make one thing clear at the outset: it isn't for me to tell Eset how to run their business. The point I was trying to make is that an integrated suite of software applications (nag screens notwithstanding :) ) would provide more peace of mind to users who have come to trust Eset.

    Moreover, if an organisation like Zone Labs sees fit to cross over into anti-virus software from their traditional firewall stuff, surely then it behoves Eset to diversify into more broad-based security suites or see their market share of the anti-virus software diminish.

    There is also the amorphous "trust" factor. I, for one, trust Eset's product and would likely trust a firewall from them which acts in complete harmony with NOD32, rather than have to hope that individual packages from differing manufacturers will give me the peace of mind I seek.

    Regards,
    Diddlydumdum
     
  9. Elwood

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    I hope ESET never makes software as invasive and bloated as some other companies. If they do make a software firewall I hope it doesn't try to do more than be a firewall, not an ad blocking, content blocking monstrosity that tries to do what can be done much more efficiently by other methods and is practically impossible to uninstall cleanly.

    If they could acquire the rights to Kerio 2.1.5 and develop it to be more modern and friendlier to the less experienced and have better logging capabilities, I think this would be a good thing.
     
  10. whistl3r

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    Agreed. What would be nice is a firewall application similar to sygate without the needless/bloated interface the big boys tack on.

    On a side note, sygate was the best firewall until symantec got there paws on it.
     
  11. Alec

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    Personally, I like to evaluate and select individual components of my security setup and I am generally opposed to "suites" because it's almost impossible for such a product to be best of breed in every category. So, like Brian N and Bubba, I would want to be able to disable components and not have to worry about nagging. More than that, though, I would want to be able to disable components and not have to worry about any potential conflicts with other solutions either (eg, if I pick someone else's firewall or host-based intrusion protection software, I don't want to have to worry about low-level conflicts of any kind). ESET has always been good about providing configurability options. Some might say they offer too much configurability. However, if they do decide to go the route of offering a suite, I would want full componentization and support for the complete addition/removal of any piece.
     
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    I agree with Alec. Although to go a little further. Even if Eset or whomever decide to make a suite. I'd still like them to sell or give away the programs as completely separate entities as well as in a suite.
     
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    And your reasons are...? :)
     
  14. betauser2

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    IMO if Eset wants to increase it's market share

    it MUST go the Security SUITE ROUTE (I know it rhymes)

    it already has a fantastic AV all it needs is a (fantastic) lightweight firwall, and it will have the world at it's feet

    I DO NOT want to see it go any further though i.e HIPs and registry defence
     
  15. feverfive

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    Security suite? No thanks. Just my preference to avoid the bloat that seems to come w/ all suites...
     
  16. Red Dawn

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    I agree that a suite is NOT needed, to many problems could come with packing to much, I would just say to Eset to continue to make the best anti-virus program out there, but if something else is needed, why not also make it the best Trojan product out there, to pick up maybe where TDS left. But no need for a firewall and a address book and a calander, etc... Stick to what you do best, and you'll be THE BEST...

    off topic, Symantec killed Sygate, that's why the best firewall went bye bye, though the very last stable version is still a great product and should keep people safe for years to come.
     
  17. Q Section

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    We conducted a small poll awhile back wherein people voted their preference to a layered approach or an all-in-one suite. Please read it here if you want to see the results and the good posts therein.
     
  18. betauser2

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    I repeat

    IMO if Eset wants to increase it's market share

    it MUST go the Security SUITE ROUTE i.e AV & Firewall

    The Wilder's community have more knowledge than the general mass who would find a AV & Firewall package more appealing.

    I'm just saying that they should offer a seperate package (AV & Firewall) in addition to their sole AV.

    Sometimes a lot of us get carried away and forget how many of us started (with the knowledge and experiance we've gained). Layered defence makes sense but not everyone has the knowhow or time for setup, or trialing for the right mix etc

    betauser2
     
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    A scary thought! :eek:

    I have a lot of confidence in eset. But still, my first reaction is that suite = compromised coverage. To date, I haven't seen a single example of a suite I'd buy/use. None! Luckily, most AV companies that offer suites still offer the pieces separately. Hopefully eset would too...
     
  20. LIW

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    Hi,

    I prefer my home theater system from different makes and brands and I dont like all from the same brand. That goes for my security stuffs too. Thats purely my opinion. Thanks.

    Regards.
     
  21. piktor

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    please NO all-in-one device suitable for every purpose :rolleyes:

    In my opinion Eset is very well in Malware-protection, and I'll think they should make this perfect (I'll know it's already nearly perfect :D )

    ... maybe it's an choice to give the malware-protection by interface to other applications ... like a Plugin for Outpost ... this could be an alternative for IMON o_O

    -piktor-
     
  22. nameless

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    1. What is a "registry optimiser"?

    2. Why do you want to use one?

    3. Why would Eset bundle one with a security suite?

    Just curious.

    FWIW, I do agree that HIPS functionality would be nice. I just tried KAV 6 beta 2 (until it brought my system to a standstill), and it incorporates features that would obviate GSS for me.
     
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    Luckily most of the suite products will also sell the AV alone, I would expect Eset to do the same. I agree that it would be nice if they'd bundle in a firewall, especially a third party one with some mild integration just packed into the same installer. I don't think there'd be anything wrong with that, adn I think they'd get more business in the long run. When I set someone up with NOD32 for the first time, it can be a challenge to find a good firewall to go with it.. a suite would definitely make things much easier.
     
  24. diddlydumdum

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    Hello again,

    I appear to have unwittingly stirred some discussion :)

    In response to Nameless' queries - and I trust someone more knowledgable than I will correct any wrong ideas/views/comments in this reply:

    1. A registry optimiser is a bit of code (a software application, if you will) which "optimises the registry, i.e. removes detritus, re-locates keys, and so forth.

    2. All (or rather most software applications) which run under Colander XP/2000/Me/98 etc require to be "registered" in a database. The problem is, upon uninstallation, the registered software isn't necessarily un-registered from the database, hence the build-up of detritus. This, as many optimiser manufacturers scream, "may cause your computer to slow down or even crash".

    3. One of NOD32's functions is to check for registry-resident virii. To this extent, I daresay the folks at Eset are aware of how a registry is composed, tracking routes, tracing, etc. Given this background and knowledge, it is not a great shift (says the complete novice!) to move into optimising the registry. I would also suggest the good folk at Eset would do a better and safer job than many if not most others.

    Now to sit back and learn how wrong I am :)

    Diddlydumdum
     
  25. nameless

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    That's exactly what I thought you meant. I'm not a big believer in registry cleaners (they cause lots of problems and almost never solve any--people always recommend them, but when pressed, can never give real specifics as to why).

    In any case, such a utility doesn't belong anywhere near a security suite. No offense, just my opinion.
     
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