Should I start using Tormail from now on?

shuverisan · Jun 17, 2013

dogbite said:

Creer,

here some information:

The A/I Collective (meaning autistici/inventati) was born in March 2001
https://www.autistici.org/en/who/collective.html

Servers are not located in Italy (or at least only there): from the following link (scroll down for English) a server was, for example, in Norway.

http://cavallette.noblogs.org/2010/11/7029

The simplest way to make an educated decision I believe is to write them your questions/concerns. Also from the quality of they reply, you can decide.
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Their mail exchange servers are one each in Norway, Netherlands and Iceland.
http://ip-lookup.net/?82.221.99.153

Thanks for posting, updated my page.

Justintime123 · Jun 17, 2013

Well, according to Wire. They set out procedures for confidential ways to communicate using a 'burner' phone. Don't know how useful it is as it would seem to draw more attention to yourself. The Washington Post have already reported facial recognition software used by law enforcement so any surveillance camera in a store or in other stores in the vicinity can track your movements.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...-11e2-8845-d970ccb04497_story.html?tid=pm_pop

http://www.wired.com/opinion/2013/06/the-whistleblowers-guide-to-privacy-how-to-leak-to-the-press/

LockBox · Jun 17, 2013

Justintime123 said:

Well, according to Wire. They set out procedures for confidential ways to communicate using a 'burner' phone. Don't know how useful it is as it would seem to draw more attention to yourself. The Washington Post have already reported facial recognition software used by law enforcement so any surveillance camera in a store or in other stores in the vicinity can track your movements.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...-11e2-8845-d970ccb04497_story.html?tid=pm_pop

http://www.wired.com/opinion/2013/06/the-whistleblowers-guide-to-privacy-how-to-leak-to-the-press/
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No question the burner phone is about as good as it gets. Anyone can buy one for $5 - $10 on sale at dollar stores and it usually comes with 5-10 free minutes.

Creer · Jun 19, 2013

I've found information that year ago FBI seized Mixmaster server from a colo shared by Riseup Networks in New York City due to Pittsburg University investigation:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/04/19/mixmaster_servers_seized/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/10/university-of-pittsburgh-_2_n_1414331.html

NotRight · Jun 19, 2013

This is Autistici's policy.
" To be hosted on our servers you have to share our principles of anti-fascism, anti-racism, anti-sexism. Your projects must as well be based on the same non-commercial nature which keep our project alive, and on the desire to share and experience relationships and struggles, with all the patience it requires )))

Any service provided on our servers cannot be destined to (directly or indirectly) commercial or religious activities, nor to political parties: to make a long story short, we do not host anyone who already has means and resources to spread widely his/her own contents and ideas, or who uses the concept of (explicit or implicit) delegation and representation in its day-to-day relationships and projects. "

Creer · Jun 19, 2013

It's from link dogbite provided in this thread but I think it's worth to copy&paste since access to english version of italian text needs some scrolling.

The story we are going to tell started in Avezzano, Italy, between the 9th December 2008 and the 30th March 2009. A lawsuit gave rise to an investigation where it is mantained that Gianluca Jannone, leader of the neo-fascist group “Casa Pound”, and Ercole Marchionni, founder of “casa pound Avezzano”, suffered threats and slander. In particular, there are charges concerning a message painted on a wall, some red paint on a door bell and some texts published on abruzzo.indymedia.org and orsa.noblogs.org, claiming that no public space should be given to declared neo-fascist groups.
After this lawsuit, public prosecutor Stefano Gallo activated together with the Avezzano police office, and the case reached the postal police in Milan. In August 2009 the Investici Association (and therefore the Autistici/Inventati collective) was called to witness, and formally declared in front of police agents that no log files linked with the orsa @ canaglie . net mailbox were kept in its servers, nor did the association have any personal data regarding the subscriber of the mailbox.
The Avezzano police office sent a rogatory letter (with charges of threats!!!) to Norway, Holland and Switzerland, asking the local authorities to contact the providers where Autistici/Inventati keeps its servers and obtain the data that our legal representative had not given them – not with reticence, but because that information is clearly unavailable.
In November 2010 the Norwegian postal police performed their duty towards their Italian colleagues: they turned up at our provider’s webfarm and asked to copy all the disks in the server, whose contents are mostly encrypted.
About two hours after the seizure, we re-activated the services in different servers. After approximately 24 hours, our whole infrastructure was running exactly as before. In this case the R* Plan worked nicely as an anti-censorship system.
(...)
We don’t understand what legal motivation can justify a damage to 2,000 people’s privacy just to obtain an evidence that the data regarding one unknown individual do not exist. This investigation regards a single mailbox, and what was requested in November 2010 was some logs dating back to late 2008, which we did not have even back then.
Some answers can be perhaps found in the text of the rogatory letter, and a passage from that brilliant English translation must be quoted:

“to obtain the file of log, and IP-access, for consultation, registration, change of password and updating relative to the mailbox ORSA @ CANAGLIE . NET (SHE-BEAR @ SCOUNDREL . NET) in the time span 2008–12-09 to 2009–12-09.”

The Public prosecutor’s office ordered the seizure, but did not realize that translating a user name and a mail domain is as ridiculous as it is useless. To be honest, we don’t think that this office is able to produce any technical assessments regarding an IT case.
To sum up: this action appears as a small political intimidatory retaliation against Autistici/Inventati, who have been considered reticent in denying a piece of information we have never had and never will have in the future.
But this small retaliation implies a major privacy problem for the 2,000 users who had a space in that server. Likewise, the facts that gave rise to this investigation have been seemingly overrated. Starting from an irrelevant political skirmish, overstated charges were used to send three rogatory letters abroad.
Along this line, any argument among neighbors could be turned into an international plot.
This makes no sense, but in the end, nothing makes much sense in this whole story.
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http://cavallette.noblogs.org/2010/11/7029

Mentioned in this quote @ CANAGLIE . NET is one of the domain belongs to autistici.org/inventati.org (Scoundrel probably had been to but it isn't now)

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