Paragon Boot Camp Backup

Discussion in 'Paragon Early Adopter Program' started by Paragon_MA, Oct 8, 2014.

  1. Trebuin

    Trebuin Registered Member

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    It was winclone or the partition resizer by Paragon that essentially caused issues with the NTFS partition in bootcamp. This also caused windows to forget the partition layout after every major OS update: vista to 7 and 7 to 8. I don't recall if 8.1 was affected. I ended up rebuilding bootcamp from scratch and not using either program. In the end, I did not want to risk reproducing the problem due to military deployments. I assume the VMDK mounter is to actually mount the backup image. I assume your problem lies in the partition itself, something chkdsk cannot fix. If you ever used a partition utility, that could be the culprit. I recommend backing up all your data, wipe bootcamp, then rebuild bootcamp from scratch like I did. Too much technical tweaking is causing problems.

    For the developers: I'm still backing up my drive to the NTFS NAS...about 60% done after the restart. Time elapsed: 21:50 for 300GB initial backup.
     
  2. CekariYH

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    Was afraid of that, I got everything up and working finally except PBCB so I have no desire to start over... So I will keep using winclone for backup for now.

    I found another app that actually backups both the Mac OS AND the Boot Camp in one go as a complete drive, been looking for something like that for ages. Bought it late last night and haven't tested it yet.
    Acronis True Image 2015 for Mac: http://www.acronis.com/en-eu/personal/mac-backup/
    There is a PC version as well.
    Will come back with a go or no go for that when tested.
     
  3. Trebuin

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    I've used acronis before...nice format, but their more recent software almost seems bogged down. I have not tried the mac backup software and I wonder if it is a run by boot disk/system or not...? My idea is to run this on my server eventually, and this really has promise.
     
  4. CekariYH

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    It runs as both, in OS X and you can burn a bootable "drive" with it so you can restore from that, but as I said not tested yet.
     
  5. Trebuin

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    Looks like they save changes...which is good. The only problem I had with them in the past is their copying to bad sectors...does not play well with different drives. Basically, they ignore marked bad sectors and write to them anyway, leaving you with a corrupt restore if there are bad sectors. I would be curious how it works nowadays.
     
  6. CekariYH

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    Yea, that sound not good if it do, well, just found them, so I have some to read and learn about it. I do check my drives on a regular bases so hopefully that will not be a problem in the long run.

    Oh, I missread... Writing TO marked bado_O thats dangerous :-/
    Will check more about this...
     
  7. Trebuin

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    Don't get me wrong, they make good software; their problem lies with a poor beta test program...like Apple's iPhone 6 and iOS 8.0.1.
     
  8. CekariYH

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    Haha, the user base becomes the beta testers... been there done that :)
     
  9. Trebuin

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    Just took a quick refresh and recalled the other big issues...this is not good for backing up to a network at all...My wife's PC used to use 2014 and the backups over the network kept failing. I just back up her files and have an original disk image to rebuild everything. My philosophy with OS X is that time machine works fine...so does having CCC, but I won't use that until I have to. If bootcamp can be restored easily, it will reduce the capacity of the backups. Having everything within OS X is a good thing in my perspective. Now if I could just find a way to encrypt windows and use this as well, that would really help.
     
  10. CekariYH

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    Hmmm, just what I did as a 1st test before bed, was doing a backup to my NAS, but it failed halfway, but was to tired to bother...

    My backup scheme atm is Time Machine to several disks both stationary and removable, CCC once a week scheduled, and WinClone once a week manually and also Backblaze cloud for all data like images and movies.
    Would have been nice if the Acronis, TM and BBZ would do it all by itself and just use CCC and WinClone before and after big changes etc when you need a fast easy restore :)
     
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  11. CekariYH

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    Ok, I did a new diskscan today on all disks involved, in Windows Boot Camp the win utility reported no errors but then I run the Mac util. and there was a lot of errors (software) so a repair fixed everything. all other drives and partitions where ok.
    Tried the PBCB again but still not finding the Boot Camp :-/
    Then I tried the Acronis, and it runs just fine, so now I'm happy :)
     
  12. Trebuin

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    Well, with SMB, the backups are connecting to the drive properly in automatic mode. This problem is more on a technical level. Logs have been emailed.
     
  13. CekariYH

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    I have given up on the Paragon backup beta.
    Acronis does everything I need atm, even found out it does it's jobb in the background. Have configured 4 drives to receive the backup, so now there will be at least one drive connected for it.
     
  14. Trebuin

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    I'm surprised I've seen only a couple testers post here...I think we need a bit more participation...seriously.
     
  15. michkhol

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    Tested a backup tonight from a local partition to an external hard drive via USB. Went fine, 80GB took more than 2 hours. The program seems to have a problem with big (3T) drives, when I try restore there, it shows 0 bytes available (the disk has 1.5T free).
     
  16. ziggy29

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    I would love to do so, but I already reported that it isn't working for me and I sent in my logs. As far as I can tell I've heard no response and no software update to retest (version shows as 0.219).
     
  17. Paragon_MA

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    We are happy to announce the updated beta of Paragon Boot Camp Backup.
    Try it now!

    What is new in the update?
    • Pinned archive state. Pin the archive or increment state and be sure that you can always go back to it. This archive will never be changed or merged automatically.
    • Support for Windows installed on separate disk
    • Support for OS X 10.7 Lion added
    • Enhanced restore to another Mac
    • Paragon Updater added
    And improved Boot Camp detection!

    Learn more about the tool on the product page or join in the beta testing now!
    Product page: http://www.paragon-software.com/support/betatesting/boot-camp-backup-beta/
    Look for the download and manual links.

    We’ll be grateful for your feedback. The product is in early beta; your suggestions will help shape its future!

    How to give feedback.
    Post a comment in this thread, or send feedback to beta-test@paragon-software.com.

    When reporting bugs, please provide the logs from Boot Camp Backup. To get logs, launch Boot Camp Backup, click Help > Collect Log Files > Collect Logs. It will generate a .zip. Attach it with your email or make available by cloud storage when making a forum post.
     
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  18. fprstudio

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    Installed the new Beta version today and is same as before "Source Disk not found"
     
  19. Trebuin

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    I like the "pinned archive state" but can't use it until the network feature works. Currently still getting "Destination is not available."
    SMB connected drive, SMB connection not initialized manually yet.
    Manually connecting SMB still results in backup failed, could not create/open file.

    Edit: I tried out Acronis's solution and that is a no-go. I rely upon time machine as it works just fine and does incremental backups much more cleanly. I want the bootcamp drive backed up separately and this is doing what I want. Acronis only does the entire drive which is a waste of space on the OS X side and does not function as time machine does for the OS X side.

    Please see if there is anything we can do to fix the SMB feature.
     
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  20. CekariYH

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    Same here, downloaded but no go... if it is the new version? I can't tell as I can't find any info on build version on the site to compare with.
     
  21. Trebuin

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    I did see the change in the about when opening the application. It should be .290.

    Also, you might want to read my comment on Acronis above.
     
  22. CekariYH

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    Ok, that is the number in the About.... so then it is the new, I was hoping I got the old again... so no go with the new for me.
     
  23. Trebuin

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    You had Paragon NTFS for mac installed and tried to fix it using OS X disk utilities, right?
     
  24. CekariYH

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    Yes and yes, also booted windows only and let Win8.1 try to find any errors...
     
  25. Trebuin

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    If you haven't already done so, I'd recommend backing up bootcamp using something else, then restore it...or back up the files and rebuild bootcamp. Your bootcamp partition has issues. I found a rare way to swap the location of the bootcamp partition with the OS X partition a while ago to help with drive performance, but don't remember how to do that anymore. That did cause issues with utilities finding bootcamp.
     
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