Windows Defender - Windows 8 Developer Preview

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  1. elapsed

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    You can when you install another AV.
     
    elapsed, Sep 13, 2011
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  2. Konata Izumi

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    wth my PC will smell burning bacons if I have realtime monitoring av, I hope this thing will be nice to my old harddisk :(
    will give windows 8 beta a try later today if sandboxie works... I'll keep using it :D
     
    Konata Izumi, Sep 14, 2011
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  3. Hungry Man

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    lol and if we don't?
     
    Hungry Man, Sep 14, 2011
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    Well then say hello to Windows Defender :D By the way, I hope no one jumps the gun and starts complaining about Windows 8 or Sandboxie if/when they find out it doesn't work (my gut says it won't). Tzuk will get it worked out when the time is right, meaning not while the thing is still nothing more than a "sneak peek".
     
    dw426, Sep 14, 2011
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  5. Hungry Man

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    I can't imagine anyone would actually complain...

    it's a new kernel so Sandboxie's kernel protection will very likely cause a blue screen

    anyways, I have to redownload it (corrupted download the first time ugh) but I'll let you guys know

    I think there has to be a way to turn defender off
     
    Hungry Man, Sep 14, 2011
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    It's a dev preview, from what I see, turning the scheduled scan off isn't implemented yet. :D

    I'm sure they'll sort it all by release. In the mean time, you can disable realtime monitoring in Defender. See above screenshots.
     
    elapsed, Sep 14, 2011
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  7. Hungry Man

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    There's still a services.msc right? can't I just ddisable it there?

    I'll found out soon =p
     
    Hungry Man, Sep 14, 2011
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    When you're in the control panel just type defender into search. :)
     
    elapsed, Sep 14, 2011
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  9. Matthijs5nl

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    @elapsed:

    Could you comment on Windows 8's built-in system restore, backup and imaging functions?
    I have read somewhere that there will be a "reset and refresh" button which resets you pc to "a new pc." Also Windows 7 already featured massively improved functions for backup. If Windows 8, next to the improved Windows Defender and other security improvements, contains great built-in system restore and backup functions, I won't need any third-party product for security (maybe Hitman Pro for some scanning next to Windows Defender).

    EDIT: Also, are there any changes in Windows Firewall visible?
     
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    Matthijs5nl, Sep 14, 2011
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    Yes, here are the 2 features:
    refresh1.png
    refresh2.png

    Not visible, if there are any changes they will be like they were in Win7, minor core improvements.

    edit: I lied, the "allow program" functionality seems to have been simplified, not sure where the advanced menu is:

    fw.png
     
    elapsed, Sep 14, 2011
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    By the way, does Windows Defender place an icon at the tray bar? Or is it like the old Windows Defender, simply running in the background? (I bet it's the latter, no?)
     
    m00nbl00d, Sep 14, 2011
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  12. Hungry Man

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    No tray bar when I used it.

    Running kinda barebones at the moment.
     
    Hungry Man, Sep 14, 2011
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    I´m looking forward to install it on my notebook...
    Does the imaging function still exists? And UAC?
     
    AlexC, Sep 14, 2011
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    you can turn off defender under the current windows 8 dev preview.
    settings,administrator and untick use this program and save the settings just like on vista and 7.
     
    lodore, Sep 14, 2011
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    Seems performance in Defender has been improved over MSE.

    http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2011/09/15/protecting-you-from-malware.aspx
     
    elapsed, Sep 15, 2011
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    Are there Default actions options under Administrator settings?
     
    rhabdomantist, Sep 16, 2011
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    m00nbl00d, Sep 16, 2011
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    From a comment origination from a MS employee in the blog:

     
    elapsed, Sep 17, 2011
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  20. Chubb

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    I just hate that because you can't completely removed it. Microsoft simply force you to use something that you might not want. Should be available as an optional item during install instead of installing it right away.
     
    Chubb, Sep 18, 2011
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    That's like saying all services in Windows should be choose-able during Windows installation. There is no difference between turning this off and any other Windows service.
     
    elapsed, Sep 18, 2011
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  22. guest

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    They are going to make the biggest cloud ever of apps. :D
    With this whitelist method and the app store virus will be something from the past for the nob users that want to stay safe.
    All the legit apps will want to be in the app store and there will be millions of software, a normal person can get his 100% software from a safe place.

    Good idea.
     
    guest, Sep 18, 2011
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  23. Ranget

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    it's good if the detection Rate contiue to be high
    also if it will run with other security Software

    that will be awesome :cool:

    i hope it wont be like the Current windows defender
     
    Ranget, Sep 18, 2011
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  24. Hungry Man

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    It's virtually identical to MSE now in terms of features.

    And disabling it is pretty easy.
     
    Hungry Man, Sep 18, 2011
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    Then detection rates would be the same as MSE i guess? :)
     
    Noob, Sep 18, 2011
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