what virtulization software should i use ?

Discussion in 'sandboxing & virtualization' started by Ranget, May 4, 2012.

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  1. Ranget

    Ranget Registered Member

    i need system virtulization first Goal is security

    vmware / vbox / v pc ?

    or anyother options ?

    i dunno the Leak of vmware source code made me think again what
    should it chose

    also is there any tweaking i could make to any of them ??
  2. Ranget

    Ranget Registered Member

    i think i'm going to stick to VMware

    but i want to ask about VMware Exploits
    is there an exploit that will bypass the whole Guest OS with its protection ?

    for an instance if i used an antiexcutable will that Protect the Host from being exploited ?
  3. bullmose

    bullmose Registered Member

    vmware is a good choice. i have seen exploits where a piece of malware attempted to infect the host computer but was blocked by CIS D+ this was a year or two ago on version 7.1.2. As for an anti-executable you will have to do a lot of config esp to just get vmware running properly.
  4. Cutting_Edgetech

    Cutting_Edgetech Registered Member

    Vmware, Vbox , V PC are great options if you are also going to be conducting Malware and / or software testing. Is this for a business that requires additional functionality that light virtualization can not facilitate? If security is your only concern I would go with light virtualization such as Shadow Defender, Return Virtual System, Deep Freeze, etc.. If you don't want to go that route then Citrix Desktop is another application that supports full blown virtual machines -http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/products/product.asp?contentID=163057&ntref=prod_cat I would say its comparable to Vmware.
  5. Ranget

    Ranget Registered Member

    mmm i think i'm going to stick with Vmware
  6. TheMozart

    TheMozart Former Poster

    I think your mind was made up even before you created this thread. :eek:
  7. Cutting_Edgetech

    Cutting_Edgetech Registered Member

    You will never know until you give the other ones a try. When it comes down to it that's the only way to really know.
  8. Dark Shadow

    Dark Shadow Registered Member

    LOL,he was just confirming his mind:D
  9. TheMozart

    TheMozart Former Poster

  10. Ranget

    Ranget Registered Member

    still didn't decide

    but i don't know which is more secure ?

    also what is the diffrence between

    Oracle VM and Virtual Box ?
  11. TheMozart

    TheMozart Former Poster

    Im not sure which is most secure, but I have used VB in the past and it seems secure, but Im not sure sorry.
  12. mirimir

    mirimir Registered Member

    What do you mean by "secure"? If you mean hiding VM data from hosts, none are "secure". Hosts can always see everything about VMs. So you must secure host machines.

    VirtualBox is open source. Oracle VM VirtualBox includes proprietary extensions for USB etc. Just get VirtualBox, and install the extension pack.
  13. Ranget

    Ranget Registered Member

    i want the most secure Like Malware not leaking out from the Guest to Host

    anyway virtual Box seem good and Free
  14. noone_particular

    noone_particular Registered Member

    Then you also need to secure the host system. Regardless of whether you choose VMware, VBox, or VPC, it's part of your attack surface and should be treated as exploitable. In this respect, it's no different than any other user app that can come into contact with malicious code. Limit permissions, restrict interprocess activity, etc.

    Regarding the VMWare source code leak, unless there's some big, unfixed vulnerability (or something else) that they're trying to hide, it shouldn't be any big deal. The source code for VirtualBox is available for all to see. This hasn't made it any less secure.
  15. Kyle1420

    Kyle1420 Registered Member

    Been using VirtualBox for a long time, very happy with it
  16. Ranget

    Ranget Registered Member

    i will try it on one of the Linux machines before starting it as my main VMM
  17. KelvinW4

    KelvinW4 Registered Member

    I use VirtualBox, I find it quite fast and easy to understand.
  18. xxJackxx

    xxJackxx Registered Member

    VirtualBox is great for free. It does not support drag and drop between the host/guest like VMWare does though. My only current gripe about VirtualBox is that it does not run Windows 8 well as a guest.
  19. Mrkvonic

    Mrkvonic Linux Systems Expert

    If your first goal is security, virtualization is not what you want.
    This kind of technology can be used for security, but that's not the primary goal.
  20. Ranget

    Ranget Registered Member

    i don't understand you Mrkvonic
    for instace i use a VM machine to do the dirty work that won't infect my system

    so what do you recomend o_O
  21. Mrkvonic

    Mrkvonic Linux Systems Expert

    Virtualization was not designed for security, although it can be used that way. It was designed for other things. The choice of software is not that important really, it's the overall understanding how things correlate, how your network works, etc.
  22. Ranget

    Ranget Registered Member

    thanks :) but i was looking for the best of
    most professional users use VMware
    one of them our beloved Meriadoc

    vmware according to some post i read is the most identifed Virtual enviroment
    by malware

    anyway your first response invoked the question

    what was designed for security as a main goal ?
  23. Mrkvonic

    Mrkvonic Linux Systems Expert

    Security as end user or security as researcher?
  24. CyberMan969

    CyberMan969 Registered Member

    Full virtualization software (as well as snapshot solutions) are both great technologies for testing software across several reboots, allowing you to easily undo most non-malicious changes. With such software you can also undo basic infections by 'dumb' malware, but more sophisticated malware may leak to the host; so it would be best to also use additional software installed both to the VM AND the host machine.

    A decent HIPS Firewall with antiexecution functions is essential (I use Comodo Internet Security with Defense+ configured for max protection). Also antivirus/antimalware protection is essential (MalwareBytes' AntiMalware plus Avast free is what I use), plus a decent light-virtualization app like Shadow Defender (which would keep most sturdy rootkits at bay).

    For full protection I also use keystroke encryption software (KeyScrambler), plus Sandboxie (in order to test any suspect executables). With Sandboxie you can safely see what changes an executable would have applied to the real system if it was allowed to run outside the sandbox. If you install all that both in the real machine and in the VM, then you should be paranoidly safe regardless of which VM software you would choose to use! :D
    Last edited: Jun 25, 2012
  25. littleturle

    littleturle Registered Member

    I share the same feeling. There are so many out there and it is confusing.
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