"Threshold" to be Called Windows 9, Ship in April 2015

You used to, didn't you?

 

He he yes. If I didn't quit, sooner or later it will eat up the whole 300 characters limit just to write down the OS part lol.

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Anybody has installed this... sigh, August Update? What would you say?

 

What direction do you think MS should take Windows to improve security?

 

I believe I've answered this question somewhere before. But I think it's fine to answer it once more.

What I would really love to see is distinct separation of user space and kernel space. User space apps shouldn't be possible to access kernel level, and no user space apps should have SYSTEM integrity level. On top of it, all user space apps should be sandboxed from the system as well as from other processes. No, I'm not just talking about Metro Apps. I'm talking about all user space apps without single exception. Lastly, better implication of mitigation techniques should also be applied out-of-the-box plus availability of execution control as strong as AppLocker without intentional holes.

However, I will have to be realistic by agreeing that it's not going to happen, ever. If Microsoft do actually make such an OS, the death of third party security software is certain. That's the exact same reason of MSE's mediocre detection rate. Microsoft could've make it much better, surpassing those of high-rated AVs. But if they do that it means they'll crush the market share of third party AVs and they would have to face anti-trust lawsuit. While some people still don't get the actual condition and keep beating up MSE like it was meant to compete with third party AVs, Microsoft can't surpass the illusionary limit set by third party vendors. But it seems that web browsers realm is not affected as much. We know that modern IE is better than Mozilla's project in terms of security. Another problem is they wouldn't have much to sell in the future if they made a very secure OS once, although I'm sure they still have some fancy graphical improvements which is more appealing to everyone from what I can tell.

 

I´ve read that they want to integrate Metro in the new start menu and into the taskbar buttons. Apparently they still don´t get it. What they need to do is cut with the Metro and Live Tiles crap.

 

Exactly. I hate 8-8.1 more than Vista & ME combined.

 

Exactly... Remove the Metro crap completely and you have a decent desktop OS again. They blew it. Should have produced separate desktop and mobile OS's. They still don't get it....

 

I wonder if anybody can code Metro "decrapifier/uninstaller/freeze" program/script? Classic Shell & the like aren't enough that Metro ~ Snipped as per TOS ~ aggro still shows up in other ways forcing ads/tiles all sorts of bs.

 

After I disabled notifications in Settings and Hot corners in Start8 options I never saw any adds, tiles or anything similar. I don't even know there is something called Metro on my system
Occasionally I run Metro to manage PC Settings...

 

You guys make me smile. You don't have to see Metro if you don't want to.

 

I've been checking the amount of MB downloaded from Windows Update since Update 1. Using NetWorx on several computers. If Microsoft says there is 3x MB to download, NetWorx measures 1x MB downloaded. One third. Anyone else noted this?

 

I´m sorry but that´s not true.

Check out this, and tell me what happens when you click on "Add a new user in PC settings".

 

I should have said "rarely" need to see Metro.

But I like Metro, particularly the Start screen. I prefer it to the old Start Menu. Faster.

 

If somebody has a way to NEVER see Metro & Metro GUIs please write a step by step how-to. You'll be a hero to millions.

 

For everyday use I never see metro. When I have to configure some things I have to enter PC Settings which is in Metro. It's the same with Default programs selection. So I see Metro approx. once a month for a minute or two.

 

I don't understand the venom that people put into disliking Metro. Surely a minute or two a month isn't too hard to tolerate.

 

Yes, I agree with you. It's not a big deal for me and definitely not a reason to stop using this OS. I still hope I won't have to install additional software to get full desktop mode on Windows 9.

 

It's pretty simple. Metro simply doesn't belong in a (non-touch) desktop/laptop OS. Period. The obvious solution, ignored by MS with disastrous results, was to deploy separate OS's for mobile and desktop. Win 9 looks to be more of the same mistakes they made with 8 (Metro mostly). I don't know how to put it any clearer or simpler, Mr Brian....

 

Kerodo,

We'll have to be in friendly disagreement on this point. I think Metro does belong because it provides consistency across hardware. Whether I'm using a desktop or a tablet, my OS appears the same and is used in the same manner. I don't have to use different procedures on each device. I mainly use a desktop and when using a tablet I tend to use a touchpad instead of finger touch. But I'm warming to finger touch.

 

Yep, we will have to just agree to disagree. I am of the opinion that the one-size-fits-all approach is a mistake. But it looks like MS is going to continue in that vein. Time will tell how it all works out.

 

I also think it's faster, and personally find it visually futuristic. I can understand some people don't like it, but to declare Win8 and 8.1 a failure because of Metro is nonsense. I'm pretty sure most computers in the very near future will be touch screen whether people like it or not, some brands have detachable displays already...

 

How would you describe Win 8's failure then? What would you attribute it to?

 

Actually, I am waiting for the day when I just look at the screen and I can control what I want to do with my thoughts. No touch!

 

If by "failure" you mean Win8 not being as popular as Windows 7, it doesn't necessarily make it a failure per se, I have never upgraded to a new OS simply because it was new. I have 5 notebooks around the house, and they all still have their original OS installed. Many people nowadays use their smartphone, tablet and what not as a substitute for a desktop or notebook, and others will probably remain with XP and Vista until their machine dies. If I had to criticize MS for something, it would be for releasing new OSs too frequently, creating problems with compatibility with drivers and other hardware. I still can't upgrade my 1 year old Samsung with Win 8 to Win 8.1 without losing some of the functionality of the computer (battery charge is reduced, display can't be dimmed, switchable graphics doesn't work). My son who is 18, hasn't touched a computer for more than 3 years, he does everything with his smartphone and couldn't care less for Win 8, Metro, Threshold etc. I believe the whole culture of desktops and notebooks is not very popular among the new generation, and people are not really keen to spend money upgrading to a new OS.

 

Don't worry very soon we'll be able to talk to our machines and they'll reply as in a normal conversation...