The unofficial Shadow Defender Support Thread.

Discussion in 'sandboxing & virtualization' started by Cutting_Edgetech, Feb 14, 2011.

  1. Cruise

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    No way (and even if they did say something to that effect, I'm sure the meaning was lost in translation)!

    Very true, and what would be the point in doing it anyway?
     
  2. bjm_

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    I guess what I was trying to do is fully update WU's in Shadow Mode to see results of problematic updates in shadow. Then return to normal and install in real environment if no problems. I guess I need a real VM partition for that.

    Maybe, SD support presumed WU's would not need a restart.
    Or, I misunderstood.
    I tried once to win update in Shadow and system froze.

    I'm trying to find a work around for M$ flawed WU's. Other than waiting for third Tuesday and googling every KB
     
  3. Osaban

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    Theoretically it should work if you commit the whole session before rebooting, but as Acadia mentioned, a MS update is too deep into the innards of the OS... Why risk a mess, a backup/image is the safest way to test MS updates or even 'System Restore' should be enough, which is activated by default before the updates are implemented...
     
  4. Peter2150

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    Hi jbm

    Stand in front of a mirror, and repeat to yourself 5 times. Do Not Do Windows Update in Shadow Mode. ROFL

    Pete
     
  5. Peter2150

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    Imaging is the way to protect yourself from bad Windows Updates.

    P
     
  6. Robin A.

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    Not possible. Commiting the whole session requires a reboot.
     
  7. bjm_

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    Yes, I dusted off Seagate and updated Acronis :thumb: System Restore breaks stuff. Time travel is still just a theory. :D
     
  8. bjm_

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    I will not do Windows Updates in Shadow Mode. I will not do Windows Updates in Shadow Mode. I will not do Windows Updates in Shadow Mode. I will not do Windows Updates in Shadow Mode. I will not do Windows Updates in Shadow Mode. :)
     
  9. Osaban

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    My thought was that committing would probably precede the loading of the updates during reboot... But honestly I would never test it, as I'm also pretty sure that something would certainly go wrong...
     
  10. Osaban

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    I don't want to sound patronizing, but make sure you can recover an image with Acronis, if you haven't tested the reliability of Acronis, it is better to risk MS updates with System Restore...
     
  11. Peter2150

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    Yea, I have to agree a bit about Acronis. As far the SD commit, small data files good, but big files, and folders..... I once did a commit on a 367gb file. Once started I didn't want to interrupt it. 8 hours later... I kid you not.
     
  12. pvsurfer

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    Hey guys, ATI actually backs-up and restores very reliably (and pretty darn fast) from its boot CD.
     
  13. Peter2150

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    what about from the windows gui
     
  14. Duong Nguyen

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    Thank Cruise for the file. It works perfectly.
     
  15. Osaban

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    I didn't mean to diminish Acronis capabilities, I still have a license (version 9 from memory) which always worked fine with the CD, I have since switched to something else. My statement was a general warning to people buying a backup/imaging program for the first time, performing several regular backups trusting unconditionally that everything is going to be fine, only to realize that when disaster strikes, their restoration doesn't work... It has happened again and again, therefore testing a restoration is an absolute must...
     
  16. Peter2150

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    Totally agree. WHen I seriously try a new imaging program, I want to do a couple of restores a day during trial.
     
  17. bjm_

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    Well, to be candid. Acronis (limited version) aka DiskWizard was prompted to me by Seagate support. I needed instruction how to format PS110 previously seldom used on Vista box. Now, wanting to use on W8 box. Seagate was very helpful. So, I opted for DiskWizard v W8 backup.
    Open to alternative suggestions. As format and Image and boot-able were fast. Is W8 bu viable?
    I bu personals' to Flash. So, will only run external for Image. PS110 came with bu software. So, this was my virgin experience with Acronis.

    1) I'm still failing to wake W8 from Sleep in Shadow Mode.
    2) What file/folder do I commit for FF Bookmarks.
     
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  18. Cruise

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    You're welcome Duong. Btw, which version of Windows are you using? Did you report your system hanging problem to SD support?
     
  19. bo elam

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    Hi bjm, you exclude file "places.sqlite." You ll find that file in your Firefox profile folder in AppData>Roaming

    Bo
     
  20. Acadia

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    He, he. I know Peter. When he says, "a couple of restores a day", he really means a couple of dozen! :argh:
    Acadia
     
  21. sdmod

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    I have emailed Tony (mentioned it on The Official Shadow Defender Forum)

    I'll post there if/when I receive a reply.

    Patrick
     
  22. bjm_

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    Thanks so much for your interest and support. I started a Thread at Official SDF before reading your Reply.
    Upon, more head scratching. I think. Issue is my box. If I invoke Sleep. I can wake Sleep. If timer invokes Sleep. No wake. Have to force PwDn.
    I have to first verify Sleep "works" as expected before testing Sleep from Shadow Mode.
    Sorry, as I seem to have put cart before the horse.

    EDIT: I think the blue gray screen I get upon space bar tap indicates wake as invokes definite drive activity. Just not able to open desktop.
     
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  23. bjm_

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    I've got three places.squlite. Just the places.squilt not the shm / wal. Any logic in committing the Profiles Folder or xuserx.default.
    I wouldn't object to being able to commit Site Preferences.
     
  24. bo elam

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    Yes, only exclude "places.sqlite." Thats the file where Firefox saves bookmarks and history. Personally, I prefer to be very specific on what I exclude. In Shadow mode I dont exclude anything but places.sqlite. If you like to save Site preferences, I think you need to exclude cookies.sqlite. Try and see.

    Bo
     
  25. bjm_

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    I was thinking Site Pref as zoom not cookies. I clear all History including cookies. All Data (Site Pref) is unchecked. I allow SBoxie direct access for Bookmark and History. So, places.sqlite should satisfy. I allow direct access phishing database...but, have not committed. Not knowing what file. Will phishing just populate again in Shadow Mode no harm no foul.

    I'll do places.sqlite and C. Thanks as always.... :)
     
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