Software Copyright Law Fails

Discussion in 'ten-forward' started by Jellyroll, Dec 18, 2002.

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  1. Jellyroll

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    Was returning from school when over the radio I heard that the digital copyright law did not withstand a court ruling. It seems the ruling says that its alright for a person to copy software, any software. A person has a legal right to copy software. In principle a person has a legal right to make back-up copies.
    I have not been able to locate anything on the internet about this new court ruling. If I do it will be posted.
     
  2. UNICRON

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    Which country was this in?
     
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  4. Jellyroll

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    So this was the Dmitry Sklyarov case. Next they will try to outlaw the sale of felt pens. I do not advocate stealing what a person has worked hard to produce an nither do I advocate badly produced products...or products that install spyware or products that open security holes for hackers like internet explorer has done so many times. Seems its okay to sell a firewall that is worthless but illegal to say its worthless.
     
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    wait wait hold the preess you mean it legal now to make back ups of your stuff pleas some one clear this up

    i need to know blazes burner on stand by mawhaaaaaaaaa
     
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    Often there is a fine line between the government trying to protectect the rights of some, and infringing on the rights of others.
    The DMCA is a classic example of what happens in the law making process when large companies and or organizations hire lobyist to make sure their rights are more protected than the individuals rights.
    Bottom line, individuals all over the world lost more of their rights. :'(
     
  7. Jellyroll

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    >Bottom line, individuals all over the world lost more of their rights. <


    An those rights where taken almost without a whisper of protest. Everyone saw it coming an stood by idle. 911 was just the excuse that was needed to make it all nice an legal but prior to 911 it was happening. A wink is the same as a nod to a blind man an the world pretended to be blind.

    Glory to the younger generation for fighting back with their file sharing. Almost makes me want to install Kazaa.
     
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    dont make blaze pull out the boom boom stick so this mean it ok to back up my stuff yes or no lol
     
  9. FanJ

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    I thought that in most cases you are allowed to make a copy for only backup-use; the licence for a certain program could tell you whether you're allowed to do so for that program.
    And, by the way, if you were not, then in fact all Imaging-software (Ghost, DriveImage, TrueImage, etc.etc.) for making a bit-by-bit backup would be illigal.....
     
  10. Vampirefo

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    Yes, you can backup your software, I have always done so, I also use Drive Image to back up my entire Hard Drive.

    The problem arises when someone gives or sells their backups to someone else, At this point if you still own a copy of the software, then you have broken the Copyright law.

    The Copyright law is not solid, it has holes in it, and people can slide through,That being said, it comes down to Morals,
    Cause most people simply will not be prosecuted under this law.

    So, yes make backups as needed, just don't give or sell a copy to someone, and retain a copy for yourself. ;)
     
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    it also depends on where you live. copyright laws are not entirely universal. Where I live, there are fair use laws allowing me to make personal backups among other things.

    And yes, morals and ethics play a big part in it as well. Legal or not, we all must decide what we think is right and wish to do in any given situation.
     
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    Will I live in USA in WA as far as I remember it has been illegal since millinume law hence the e-book test of the new law?

    Making back up of anything other then your Owen written lituture was illegal.

    Even this post IM doing is illegal if one were to copy and paste it on another forume with out my consint AKA copy right holder

    The law was so missed up that it also took alway invention rights or the ablity to make a better software.

    AKA no reverse engineering to make a better product there for hampering creativity and are economy to move forward.

    This had put a handy cap on things for example blaze look a pauls invention takes it apart makes something better.

    But based on similar technology unique in its Owen right but same principles.

    How ever due to millinume law since I open pauls up and made something unique with same principle ive just broke the law.

    Creators and general people rights were taken always.

    Including fair use under Clinton admin and right to privacy now under Jr. bush thumb followed by the new peer to peer hacking civilian copyright holder law.

    Which gave music industry and civilians the right to take the law in to there Owen hands all millinume law based?

    And how did this happened smoke and mirrors gov had purposely taken pay off shelled out the law under civilian noses then made the law so confusing that normal people couldn't understand it only those with a law degree and engineering degree could.

    Know one had made it newby friendly then Sep 11 happened and they used that to further the grip on everything took pay off from holly wood and the music industry.

    And no IM not speculating either the guy responsible for peer to peer hack had gotten a rather huge donation from the music industry to lobby the new law peer to peer hacking

    it was in the news and its not illigal but it should be lol

    So algain blaze ask is it legal to back up your stuff?
     
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    ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh two mods and a forum adminrun run lol wait newbys unite form a chain around my post lol hueman newb chain lol

    lmao just kiding lol
     
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