Panda Cloud Antivirus 1.5 final release

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  1. Matthijs5nl

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    I realise that cloud scanning can take longer, but that doesn't justify 2 hours and 33 minutes for 60GB. Where for example ESET does that in 40 minutes.
    I will run the tool. Do I have to run the whole full scan (so more than 2 hours) or can I stop collecting data earlier? Since if it is scanning slow for a reason the problem would be there already after I clicked the scan my pc button.
     
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  2. pbust

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    Thanks. In addition to the PsErrorTrace tool can you also send me the logs from DDS? There might be another driver installed on your machine which is slowing CloudAV down.

    Regarding stopping it earlier, ideally no but yes you can. But at least let it run for more than 5 or 10 mins to collect enough information.
     
  3. Brocke

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    then what future imporements are going to happen to help improve offline protection other than local cache?
     
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    PCAV 2.0 will include a firewall with IDS. There's currently an open beta for that:
    http://www.cloudantivirus.com/forum/ann.jspa?annID=50228
     
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    So, for a first scan to improve performance, may be the best thing to do is to update PCAV. Then get into offline mode and start a complete scan?
     
  7. pbust

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    It shouldn't really be necessary. If your scan speed is extremely slow then its probably due to some conflict or incompatibility with other installed software/drivers. Then the best thing to do is to run a scan while running PsErrorTrace and send us the resulting log.
     
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    will the firewall be a quiet one like Norton firewall where the program will answer most questions or will it be noisy like comodo or user based/asked ?
     
  9. pbust

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    Quite one like Norton's and Panda 2012's.
     
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    thats good :)
     
  11. J_L

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    Regarding slow scans, I actually have a slower offline product: ArcaVir MicroScan. As long as I can still use the computer (got dual-core), I don't really mind it. Also Spybot S&D would take ages longer if I force it to scan my entire system.

    What's the point of scanning offline? Won't detection rate go down tenfold?
     
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    I have to say that 1.5 is running beautifully. I have it alongside Outpost Pro 7.5 and Spyshelter Pro, and all are working harmoniously! Looking forward to 2.0.
     
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    Testing it! Really light in my system so far :).
     
  14. cruchot

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    Regarding my performance "problem".
    I'm running v1.5 Pro. The used CPU time by PSANHost.exe is much lower (at least 50%) after disabling "Behavioral analysis" in PCAV.

    Is it common that the first start of an application (Firefox 5.0 via Sandboxie 3.56 for example) takes a long time to start? Every further start is faster.
    After restarting the system the first application start takes more time again.

    Windows (Index) Search service is disabled on my system, Windows Defender too. There is no background defragmentation software (like Diskeeper/PerfectDisk) installed.
     
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    Is the problem specific to Firefox launch?
    It wouldn't be the first time we've had a similar situation with FF and the behavioural engine.
     
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    Mainly, but not only. The start of Firefox is a bit slower because of Sandboxie too - even without PCAV. The first start of other applications like Outlook, Total Commander is slower too after installing PCAV.


    My other posts about the balloon tip: Now I'm running a scheduled application that shows something like

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    Now I'm not a user of PCA (I have had v. 1.4 Pro) but I have a question to newest version...I always thought that PCA works fully effective only in the on-line mode and the signature on my computer offer only partial protection - are there in the new version any major changes in the method of protection? PCA 1.5 protects me the same on-line and off-line?
     
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    I need some clarification on this:

    What if the system is connected to the internet but all the bandwidth is used by a program like a download manager downloading a large file from the internet. Will that download be slowed a little so that PCAV can connect to its servers to scan a new file (either the real time module or manual scan) or will it scan with its local cache signatures?
     
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    I think this is no problem since PCAV won't upload your file but, basically, checks the hash (probably also certain characteristics) of the file in the cloud. Such a check against the cloud demands only very little bandwidth.
     
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    Is there a option to disable the firewall in the 2.0 release at installation? I don't like firewalls and I have already a firewall in my router
     
  21. Brocke

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    just install the free version, it wont have the firewall. but im sure there will be
     
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    This is superb.. light as usual, optimized scan seems fast.. using the Pro version got it from some promo a year go :D
     
  23. Brocke

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    i just hope they dont add crap like avira , avg and avast are doing, like the credit alert things with avast and so on.
     
  24. pbust

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    Obviously not, detection is improved while online, which is the infection vector of 99,9% of malware today. For the remaining threats PCAV offers different layers of offline protection:
    * Local synch'ed cache of Collective Intelligence signatures of prevalent threats.
    * Generic signatures.
    * Signatures for non-PE files.
    * Static heuristic with emulation (codename Nereus)
    * Static behavioural blocking engine.
    * Dynamic behavioural analysis engine.
    * Autorun & USB vaccination.

    When connected it adds a few more layers:
    * Cloud-based signatures (specific and generic)
    * Cloud-based heuristics (codenamed Nereus.net)
    * Age heuristics, aka prevalence
    * Whitelisting
     
  25. cruchot

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    Informative info. Thanks.
     
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