NovaShield HIPS

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  1. trjam

    trjam Registered Member

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    And the Management Team here
     
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  2. Perman

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    Hi,

    Thanks for those screen shots.

    Are there some differences between NovaShield and AntiBot(or PRSC) ?

    It seems to me that it may be a mirror image of PRSC that I am using.
     
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  3. Peter2150

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    trjam, are you representing them?

    Lot of discussion here, but no test, so.....

    I don't get it, or I missed something. I downloaded and installed it. Smooth install, and once up it told me my system was clean, Novashield was operating, and my system was protected. Ran Killdisk, one other virus that infected the system, and another POV that took down the system.

    As far as I can see the only thing on Novashield that worked was it's nag screen. On all three of the malware samples I ran, Fprot wouldn't have let me extract them, wouldn't let me run them. OA,SSM and Prosecurity all protested over the place, and blocked them unless I allowed. Sandboxie and online armor's Run Safer protected the system. Actually so did DefenseWall.

    For this test, I put both Prosecurity and OA in learning mode, so Novashield was on it's own. Ran all three tests. Not a peep out of Novashield, nothing, and each piece of malware had it's way with the machine.

    Pete
     
    Peter2150, Mar 31, 2008
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  4. trjam

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    Ah, not any more.:doubt:
     
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  5. Espresso

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    Maybe it's telling that the release date is April 1. ;)
     
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  6. Kees1958

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    Not a very good start when your primary business is defense. On the other side at least it is silent :)
     
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  7. lucas1985

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    I would not test a behav. blocker with leaktests, PoCs or destructive malware. I would test it with exploits, trojans, bots and worms.
     
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  8. trjam

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    to me it was Antibot all over again.
     
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  9. Peter2150

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    I didn't test it with leak tests, but if it the logic of not testing with destructive malware, is a puzzlement. If it won't stop that, what on earth good is it? Besides read the website. Wonderful new technology that protects the computer from new and unknown threats.
     
    Peter2150, Apr 1, 2008
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  10. ErikAlbert

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    Killdisk is not a new or unknown threat. NovaShield only works when the threat is new or unknown. :D :rolleyes:
     
    ErikAlbert, Apr 1, 2008
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  11. kinwolf

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    3 process that used 100 megs of memory + it kept crashing because it couldn't contact it's licence server, even though I used the 60 day trial...

    It's gone from my computer.
     
    kinwolf, Apr 1, 2008
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  12. Peter2150

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    ROFL. You may be right.
     
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  13. lucas1985

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    Crimeware (malware which pursue financial gain) :)
    NAB/PRSC and Threatfire also failed with destructive malware and some PoCs. Gather some USB worms, PSW trojans, exploits, backdoors, spambots, rogue scanners and the like and retest it.
     
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  14. Peter2150

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    Naw. Don't see the point. OA with Runsafer, Prosecurity, SSM and Sandboxie handle it all. Why bother with something that doesn't. Certainly doesn't match the claims, in my opinion.

    Pete
     
    Peter2150, Apr 1, 2008
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  15. trjam

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    What I am rying to figure out is, how does it know what the new threat is, if it doesnt know what the old one was.o_O
     
    trjam, Apr 1, 2008
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  16. Perman

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    Hi,

    One of the wilders' members , who has done test of Manutu versus Four Kings of Virus, has conducted the same test. And he reported back: NovaShield has FAILED all FOUR.

    Using this test result as a yardstick, then NovaShiled Has very long way to hop.
     
    Perman, Apr 1, 2008
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    But they seem to have made enough money even until now by the grants. I wonder how come they are eligible for such grants.
     
    aigle, Apr 1, 2008
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  18. Chuck57

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    That's what Grants are all about it the United States. They've given out grants to study why children play, to study the origin of the Hatfield-McCoy feud (when anybody in that area could tell you), and other intelligent things. Why not to develop software that doesn't work?
     
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  19. lucas1985

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    Certainly your setup has no place for a behav. blocker. I thought that you were testing it for fun.
     
    lucas1985, Apr 2, 2008
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  20. Peter2150

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    I was testing it for fun, and it failed.
     
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  21. Rasheed187

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    I have also tested this app and I have to agree, the apps looks crappy on first sight. It could spot some malware, but most of the time it stayed completely silent, what a joke. Looks like it´s ridiculously far behind on tools like ThreatFire and these guys are actually charging money for this crap, very disappointing :cautious:, but I don´t like behavior blockers anyway.

    It would have been much more clear if you had put post #24 inside qoute tags.
     
    Rasheed187, Apr 3, 2008
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  22. trjam

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    point taken.:doubt:
     
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