New Antivirus Test Report By VIRUS.GR

Hmm....Nicely spotted there.

I'll notify the tester about it.

Yes, originally it was written as "AVG Anti-Malware Professional". It was changed later after I notified him (the tester) about it. Frankly, I'm not surprised with the test result, given the sample sets used.

Would be right, yes, but it is very difficult in the end to test thousands of samples individually in a sandbox. Besides, only a person well acquainted in the security field can determine malware from a clean file. This becomes difficult especially in cases where certain harmless tools are detected by trojans by certain AVs, etc.

There is more I want to say on this topic but I'll send you a PM later about this.

 

I'snt Winantivirus a rogue app ? Rogue Remover lists it as such. They list it as Winantivirus 2006 + Winantivirus 2007. Is it the same app ? It's not tested here but listed under anti virus websites on the same website with the test's.

 

Hmmm........Winfixer = not good:

http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/winantivirus.com/downloads

http://www.f-secure.com/sw-desc/winfixer.shtml

 

What s about CyberScrub version 1.0 AV?
According these tests it have good detection, anyone knows something about it?

 

Based on KAV 4.5 Lite edition, has no extended database. For $49.95 you get a 5 year license. It is an outdated product by today's standards with doubts about whether it will be upgraded to support Vista, so at this moment I cannot recommend it.

 

This site and its results does not worth reading . They are not legitimate . Have no idea why are you discussing them at all

 

Well, it IS a test that has been around for some time - even longer than AV-Comparatives, IIRC. Even if it's history is the sole factor, that's still enough to warrant some interest. And while the results are not quite in the league of AV-Test and AV-Comparatives in terms of professionability, they're still the honest work of a well-meaning tester who's been at it for some time, for better or for worse.

 

av-test.org did not come across this problem?

 

Kaspersky's latest beta with heuristics (I think) has .1% more detection? Err...

 

Durad, av-test and av-comparatives were told the registry key that fixed the problem.

btman, keep in mind that virus.gr uses Kaspersky as the reference scanner. Nothing is malware, unless KAV reports it or it comes from a VX source. ;-) So every malware in this test is detected by KAV signatures and the heuristic has nothing much to do.

 

If this is the case, then I am confused how KAV didn't detect 100%, how come they only get 99% in the test if their AV establishes the test set? Secondly, it would seem a bit unfair, the possibility would exist for KAV to have a false positive that would benefit it and count against the other products. Third, such an approach diminishes the test in my view from an accurate test of AV's to a marketing scheme to sell KAV. Fourth, an AV with a heuristic detection that KAV missed wouldn't be counted because KAV doesn't say it is a virus. Didn't someone else in the thread say this test was not reliable, seems to me it is not. Seems like KAV would have a HUGE advantage given the rules you mentioned at least anyway.

 

From what I know KAV is not *THE* reference scanner. I believe VirusP also uses F-Prot, BitDefender and a few others as the reference scanners. I have some of his scan logs (its published on his website anyway), and the logs were made using several scanners, not just KAV....

Still, I'll let you know if there is anything else I can find out about this.

 

Kaspersky is the leader about detection rate, however (as virus.gr statement):

What is interesting here is that if a file isn't detected by Kaspersky, F-Prot, Nod32, Dr.Web, BitDefender and McAfee (at least ONE of these!) then it isn't a malware. Well, that's a bit strange, lot of malware isn't detected by these antiviruses, and even if only ONE of these detect a malware then it could be clearly a false positive.

In other words:

 

Well if Virus.gr say that there is 20000 files that nobody detect at the moment what would you think?

 

Avira included:

8. Ashampoo version 1.30 - 95.80%

9. AntiVir version 7.03.01.53 Classic - 95.08%

Strange.
Ashampoo better than Antivir?

 

I think it s because was tested AntiVir classic not premium edition, as I know Classic version can t detect adwares and spywares...

 

here is my take. Avira will currently blow all AVs out of the water when it comes to detection. FPs are still a slight issue but are being worked on. If true testers do it right, then you will see them at or near the top. That is just the way it is, "right now", and tells you a lot about the tester and their ability to do something accurate or from the wallet.

 

Yes

VirusP's samples contain some amount of adware and spyware. Due to AntiVir Classic not detecting these, AntiVir is rated below Ashampoo.

 

hey firecat, why was drweb less than 1% below norton, what the hell happened to norton?

any ideas?

 

Not yet, I am still trying to find out.

 

I don't really believe that anything happened to norton I think what has happened is a questionable test site.

 

I think the difference between Ashampoo and Avira is due to slightly different versions, since Ashampoo is AFAIK not including ADSPY detection either and has a few other malware categories disabled. It could also be due to different configuration settings.
I guess AntiVir Premium/Pro would more likely be in the 98-99 detection range.

 

No, Ashampoo includes ADSPY detection. At least the Ashampoo AV help file says so.

 

Firecat, are you sure they mentioned "ADSPY/" detection support? AFAIK they don't use the adware/spyware detection of Avira but their own. I agree with Frug, Avira Premium would most likely be in the 98-99% range.

 

No, they did not use the word "ADSPY". But the help file has a field which says "Ashampoo Antivirus protects against:" and there are many malware types listed there, and Adware and Spyware were also mentioned there.

Also, Ashampoo support told me something similar: When I asked them about whether Ashampoo AV detects spyware, I was given this answer (name of Ashampoo representative not given for privacy purposes):

How this is to be interpreted I do not know, but I did see the words "Adware" and "Spyware" mentioned in Ashampoo's help file. Ashampoo AS is based on A-Squared.