MRG Effitas Antilogger & Browser Security Test

Discussion in 'other anti-malware software' started by Scoobs72, Aug 19, 2011.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. aigle

    aigle Registered Member

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2005
    Posts:
    11,164
    Location:
    UK / Pakistan
    Hi, you are right in a awy but this is your view ofcourse and not every one will agree with this when you discuss/ test classical HIPS like MD, CIS, OA etc.:) If you have used a classical HIPS in the past you can understand it very well.

    I propsed it so that every one will know whether a HIPS infact created a pop up alert of malicious activity or not. Also I hope by this way there might be less objections on MRG testing methodology. Actually only a small percentage of users use classical HIPS and they might not care the marks given to the HIPS, all that they care whether the HIPS they are using intercepted the malicious behavior or not.

    Ofcourse any one can disagree with my view.
     
  2. shadek

    shadek Registered Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2008
    Posts:
    2,538
    Location:
    Sweden
    With your suggested methodology, more vendors would probably participate in the conducted tests. That's what's so good about it! :) Albeit I must question the relevance of letting classical HIPS pass the test as they just give pop-ups and ordinary users might just as well click 'deny' or 'allow' for all we know!
     
    Last edited: Aug 23, 2011
  3. aigle

    aigle Registered Member

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2005
    Posts:
    11,164
    Location:
    UK / Pakistan
    HIPS are not for ordinary users , ordinary users can click any thing
     
  4. 1000db

    1000db Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2009
    Posts:
    718
    Location:
    Missouri
    Honestly in many of these tests non-typical security software should be considered as well as tested. This can help HIPS and anti-executables become more widely known. I understand that MRG is looking for dedicated anti-kl apps but really non-typical apps should be included as a separate group. Because programs such as Malware Defender and AppGuard (just a couple examples) are not marketed as anti-keylogger programs they might indeed perform better than dedicated programs. Besides if you only compare similarly marketed programs you will only find out which one of those programs performs best; you still wouldn't know which type of security technology protects best against keylogging. The latter seems to me to be more important especially when online financial transactions are concerned.
     
  5. thanhtai2009

    thanhtai2009 Registered Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2010
    Posts:
    225
    Location:
    Vietnam
  6. TonyW

    TonyW Registered Member

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2005
    Posts:
    2,741
    Location:
    UK
  7. acr1965

    acr1965 Registered Member

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2006
    Posts:
    4,995
  8. Thankful

    Thankful Savings Monitor

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2005
    Posts:
    6,564
    Location:
    New York City
  9. shadek

    shadek Registered Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2008
    Posts:
    2,538
    Location:
    Sweden
    Wow. DefenseWall is truly amazing. I wish there was a x64-compatible version. Never thought SpyShelter or Prevx would fail.
     
  10. jmonge

    jmonge Registered Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2008
    Posts:
    13,744
    Location:
    Canada
    DefenSeWall :thumb: :thumb:
     
  11. Thankful

    Thankful Savings Monitor

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2005
    Posts:
    6,564
    Location:
    New York City
    Assuming user responds correctly. Same story with Zemana.
     
  12. LODBROK

    LODBROK Guest

    The inclusion of alert screenshots in their report would have gone a long way in presenting what they interpret as a "valid user input request."

    Maybe they can post up the screenshots in their forum thread??

    Having used Zemana for over two years, their alerts are quite detailed and relevant. I'd like to see how the others compare.
     
  13. LODBROK

    LODBROK Guest

    AND GeSWall AND Zemana. :thumb: :thumb:
     
  14. Thankful

    Thankful Savings Monitor

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2005
    Posts:
    6,564
    Location:
    New York City
    There have been other browser tests where Zemana automatically blocks an action without user response required. User input gives user one more place to go wrong. By the way, I am a Zemana user.
     
  15. aigle

    aigle Registered Member

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2005
    Posts:
    11,164
    Location:
    UK / Pakistan
    Very nice test and great effort. :thumb:

    Thanks MRG.

    I wish they can add a lot of screenshots showing us more details and all pop up alerts by security applications being tested. That will make it more spicy. :p
     
  16. Page42

    Page42 Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2007
    Posts:
    6,944
    Location:
    USA
    KeyScrambler failed. :(
    I emailed results to Qian Wang, but I'm sure he knows from MRG participation.
    Thank you for the test!
    :thumb:
     
  17. Kernelwars

    Kernelwars Registered Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2010
    Posts:
    2,155
    Location:
    TX
    zemana passed:argh: good job:thumb:

    prevx SOL failed :(
     
  18. guest

    guest Guest

    Obviously KS fails, to make KS able to block this they will need to write a totally new software since KS is not intended to block this kind of Antiloggers
    Trusteer Rapport, is the only one you can trust for free on x64 :thumb: also is the most advanced and configurable browser protection.
     
  19. Page42

    Page42 Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2007
    Posts:
    6,944
    Location:
    USA
    Why is the software tested against malware it is not made to block?
     
  20. guest

    guest Guest

    Because in the KS website the say that they protect against all baking malware while this is not true so Sveta enjoy testing it and seeing it fail :D
    http://www.qfxsoftware.com/press/security-alert.htm they even mention Zeus xD
    I think that the other advertisement has been removed from the website

    keyscrambler represents probably the best Antilogger protection "on real time" that you can find on the market, but this banking malware is not "on real time"

    "On real time"= captures the keystrokes on real time (while is being typed)
     
  21. Kernelwars

    Kernelwars Registered Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2010
    Posts:
    2,155
    Location:
    TX
    raiden how do you add sites manually in trusteer rapport? dont seem to find it:argh:
     
  22. guest

    guest Guest

    I don¡t have it now but as far as I can remember you can make a config for https sites and http sites, I really don't remember if you can set an specific configuration for a website. But I remember that it was the most configurable so there should be a way to do it :D

    http://consumers.trusteer.com/learn-about-rapport-0#chapter_which_websites
     
  23. Page42

    Page42 Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2007
    Posts:
    6,944
    Location:
    USA
    Interesting.
    How is this banking malware not real-time capture?
    If the answer is obvious, sorry, I overlooked it.
    Thanks for the explanations.
     
  24. shadek

    shadek Registered Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2008
    Posts:
    2,538
    Location:
    Sweden
    Bare in mind that the test was conducted on a 32-bit system. Trusteer Rapport may have passed the latest test from MRG, but that does not mean it's as efficient on x64 as it's a completely different architecture.
     
  25. guest

    guest Guest

    I'm not an expert but basically this malware is able to "capture the packets" sent by the browser, so when you click "send" the malware is able to intercept the information and steal it. So the info is not steal when you write it.

    You are right, at least is one of the few that has never been bypassed in a MRG banking test, lets hope that the x64 version is as good as the 32bit xD Trustter rapport is sponsored and paid by many banks so I think they are quite serious about their product and I think that the x64 version is as good as the 32 bit.

    I hope we can see x64 banking tests soon.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.