MBAM & Evidence Eliminator

Re: MBAM & Evidense Eliminator

Hi, Most people do, even my three year old grand-daughter knows this theory. She stops by big names places such as MacDonald, Wendy's etc for kid meals only. Why does she know all these ? because her adult relatives have told her so. And she trusts these people. and these folks are well qualified to do so.

Who in cyberspace have such qualification and position to tell others to trust or not all other applications ?. Especially when a new kid with less than three years(?) credentials wrapped around his waist ,all of sudden jumps out woods to say so and so. Kid, get some nods from your peers first before talking, and when you talk, be aware that all other experts are monitoring(not necessarily listening to) your blah-blah. I have mentioned it many times here, you need two to tango, and two hands to clap to make a sound. I have not seen any couple dancing nor have heard any clapping sound.

MBAM may have spotted something fishy about EE or others which have been detected by its other applications. But its findings have NOT been certified. If not certified, then not worth of being trusted, my grade school teacher told us many many years ago.

 

Re: MBAM & Evidense Eliminator

Heartily agree! The above link discloses that the proponents of Evidence Eliminator use FUD and other forms of mis-leading ads to sell their product.

They are snake-oil peddlers, which fully declares them to be "rogue."

 

Re: MBAM & Evidense Eliminator

@Perman
You missed the point.
It's not that I dismissed EE because MBAM say I should. Like I said earlier in this thread: I've followed the "development" of EE since its early days and have personally had them "blacklisted" for life because of their foul marketing and personal attacks on anyone who criticized them, their marketing or their product.

There is certainly nothing uncertified about the complete lack of ethics shown by EE's authors so I don't need to rely on anyone else's opinion on wheter they are scumbags or not.

Yes, MBAM is a fairly new AM. So far they haven't give me a reason to question their seriousity - on the contrary, adding EE to their blacklist tells me they're as concerned as I am when it comes to false advertising and scare tactics.

MBAM is innocent until proven guilty whereas EE has been conning people for many years - it's there for anyone who wish to read about it. You wanna look the other way? That's fine by me.

regards,
T

 

Re: MBAM & Evidense Eliminator

@ Teknokrata:

I fully respect your opinion. MBAM's future is not my concern nor my business. What I am so curious is that why others such SAS, SS or SD ,AVG have not jumped in to support their folk( assuming with the same sort of feather).

Has anyone used these apps noted above to endorse MBAM's unique findings ?

I will not rest my curiosity until then. Have a nice one, always.

 

Re: MBAM & Evidense Eliminator

MBAM is related to Rogue Remover and is expected to be tough on rogues .

Long before MBAM I was well known for tracking down new rogues . There is a technique I started that allows discovery of new rogues before they even have a live download . At MB we have a hidden forum with a pile just waiting to go live so we can attack them .

If we were not a notch tougher on rogues then the rest we would not be living up to expectations .



Even if the EE app is 100% on the up and up today one only needs to look at the past to predict the future . Are there any users here that have taken an honest look at what the makers of EE have done and can honestly say that they trust their code in their computer now and forever ?

 

Re: MBAM & Evidense Eliminator

I'd be interested in seeing the results of someone running EE's EULA through Javacool's EULAlyzer 1.2.

 

Re: MBAM & Evidense Eliminator

Would you also be interested in the results of a user who tested EE a total of one day and ended up with a marathon BSOD at each start up with a Disk-Read-Error that CHKDSK was able to temporarily resolve.

I was so peed i still don't know what i done with that HD, i'll have to look for it tomorrow and see if it can be salvaged enough to be useful again.

 

Re: MBAM & Evidense Eliminator

Actually I would be more interested in seeing the results of someone running EE's EULA through Javacool's EULAlyzer 1.2. I'd like to know if the EULA is giving out warning signs.

 

Re: MBAM & Evidense Eliminator

I ran it through EULAlyzer and it only issued a warning about 3rd parties.

 

Re: MBAM & Evidense Eliminator

I'm surprised there wasn't more. Thanks for checking. Can you post the EULA here?

 

Re: MBAM & Evidense Eliminator

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END USER SHAREWARE LICENCE

This document contains the Licence Terms relating to the use of Evidence Eliminator that You are about to install.

When You have read the terms of the Licence below and You wish to become a Licensee of Evidence Eliminator, click on the YES button to show your acceptance to the Licence Terms.  By clicking the YES button You indicate your acceptance of the terms set out below.  Acceptance shall bind You and all of your employees to the terms of this Licence.  If You do not wish to accept the terms, click the NO button.

TERMS OF LICENCE

1.	Licence

1.1	Robin Hood Software Limited (a company incorporated in England and Wales with registered number 3998601) whose registered office is at Robin Hood Software Ltd., Gothic House, Barker Gate, Nottingham NG1 1JU, United Kingdom ("Robin Hood") is authorised to Licence the Evidence Eliminator Software which You are about to install (the "Software").

1.2	By clicking on the YES button below, You, the Licensee, accept these Licence terms (the "Licence").  This Licence is an agreement between Robin Hood and You.  

1.3	In consideration of You accepting the Licence, Robin Hood grants You a non-exclusive, non-transferable object code licence to use the Software and the Help Manual or other supporting documentation relating to the Software (the "Help Manual") subject to the terms set out below.

2.	Use of the Software

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2.2	You may download the Software into the permanent memory (e.g. hard disc, CD-ROM or other storage device) on a single or multiple computer(s) for processing such Software for use by no more than N concurrent users.

2.3	For the purposes of this Licence, "concurrent use" shall mean simultaneous use of the Software by a maximum of N users provided that (a) Software installed on a server for the sole purpose of distribution to other work stations and (b) Software installed on computers where the Software is not being used is not used for the purposes of ascertaining the number of concurrent users.  

2.4	You may use the Software to delete data from your computer.  You shall not distribute or re-sell the Software to any other person, except as set out in clause 2.10.  

2.5	This Software deletes data.  If You have data on your computer You want to keep, You must back that data up before installing this Software.  If You have valuable data on your computer or You are in any doubt about using this Software, read the Help Manual thoroughly before actually using or starting this Software processing in your computers memory.  The Help Manual is available after installation of the Software.

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2.8	Except as set out in clause 2.7 and 2.10, You shall not make or allow others to make any copies of the Software and/or the Help Manual.  You shall put in place adequate security measures to prevent the Software and Help Manual from being used or copied by unauthorised people.  

2.9	Robin Hood Licences this Software for legal purposes only to enable You to remove unwanted data from your computer systems.  Use of this Software for illegal, defamatory or offensive purposes, including but not limited to removing data from your computer which may be required in criminal proceedings, is expressly not permitted.  

2.10	If the Software is a 30 day free evaluation version, it is available through shareware websites ("Sites").  Accordingly, if You are the owner of a Site and Robin Hood has expressly authorised You to display the Software on the Site,  Robin Hood authorises You to distribute and  copy the Software and make it available to download from the Site in its unmodified form.  No fee shall be charged or accepted by owners of Sites for such services. 

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3.2.3	use the Information for the development, production or marketing of a computer program substantially similar in its expression to the Software, or for any other copyright infringement act; or

3.2.4	use the Information in a manner which unreasonably prejudices Robin Hood's legitimate interests or conflicts with a normal exploitation of the Software.

4.	Your Obligations

4.1	You shall:

4.1.1	maintain accurate records of the number and location of all copies of the Software, and control use of the Software in accordance with this Licence;

4.1.2	not tamper with, obscure or remove the copyright notice of Robin Hood on the Software or any other proprietary marks of any person as may be specified in or on the Software or in the Help Manual;

4.1.3	not obtain any ownership of or rights to the copyright, patents, trade marks, or any other intellectual property rights of Robin Hood on or in relation to the Software and the Help Manual;

4.1.4	inform Robin Hood immediately if You become aware of any unauthorised access to, use or copying of, any part of the Software or Help Manual.  

5.	Robin Hood's Obligations

5.1	From time to time Robin Hood may modify and improve the Software.  You may download any updates and upgrades which are available from time to time to the Software free from Robin Hood's web-site (www.evidence-eliminator.com).  This Licence will apply to all updates and upgrades of the Software.

5.2	Robin Hood is happy to assist You with any queries You have with the Software by providing e-mail guidance for free and shall provide such service with reasonable care and skill and within a reasonable time.  Robin Hood does not make any other promises about this support service . If You require support for the Software which is not covered by this Licence, Robin Hood shall inform You how much that will cost.

5.3	Robin Hood warrants that at the date of You entering this Licence, the Software will match its description as set out on Robin Hood's web-site [http://www.evidence-eliminator.com], will be of satisfactory quality and fit for its intended purpose.

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6.2	Robin Hood does not warrant that the Software shall be free from all known viruses although it has used commercially reasonable efforts to check for the most commonly known viruses prior to making it available to download.  You are solely responsible for virus scanning the Software.  

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9.6	For the avoidance of doubt, nothing in this Licence is intended to confer on any third party any benefit or right to enforce the terms of this Licence. 

9.7	This Licence shall be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of England and shall be subject to the exclusive jurisdiction of the English courts.

 

Re: MBAM & Evidense Eliminator

Slighty different then the software license agreement I found on their web site...........Hmmmmmm........

I perticuly like 3.9 after the scare tactics on the home page.

And 7.2........So what are they saying there, that maybe there's Viruses in their software and it's up to you to find it.

 

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not to condemn EE but it smells,afterall Nosirrah did the right thing ! Pfttt... not to be in his shoes with heavy burden responsible for many MBAM users.

 

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That is strange. At least I never saw that before. Wonder how commonplace that is?

"7.2 Robin Hood does not warrant that the Software shall be free from all known viruses although it has used commercially reasonable efforts to check for the most commonly known viruses prior to making it available to download. You are solely responsible for virus scanning the Software."

 

Re: MBAM & Evidense Eliminator

They are honest.

 

Re: MBAM & Evidense Eliminator

Yeah, and that's a common warning for CDs from various PC magazines too. Don't know if I've seen it from a software vendor before though... Nothing too strange IMO.

regards,
T

 

Re: MBAM & Evidense Eliminator

It's an umbrella, nobody wants responsibility anymore and responsibility is often more blabla than deeds.

 

Re: MBAM & Evidense Eliminator

Got some current rogue activity for you guys .

http://www.malwarebytes.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=5476

 

Re: MBAM & Evidense Eliminator

Why am I not surprised? Look, I used this program not too far along back, and its little "maid activities" had my computer choking after 2 cleanings. It hooked into every little nook and cranny and was a pain in the rear end to clean out of my system during and after uninstalling. A couple of programs quit working and had to be reinstalled after the first cleaning, and, like an idiot, I thought "oh well, probably a little glitch", and allowed the thing to clean again a few days later, and what do ya know, programs quit working again.

You can fight amongst yourselves about their advertising and all that, but I'm warning you that from a usage standpoint, the thing is bad news.

 

Re: MBAM & Evidense Eliminator

Never used the program, but can someone point me to one other legitimate program that uses advertising like the one provided in nosirrah's link.

 

Re: MBAM & Evidense Eliminator

I believe MBAM is a legit app - but see the thread below where they have partnered with a known malware site to distribute their software:

https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=214187

Perhaps, using the logic they applied to listing ee as rogue, they should list MBAM as rogue as well...

 

Re: MBAM & Evidense Eliminator

Hi

I agree it is unacceptable, but RubberDucky has stated that he went through the process and did not receive malware.

 

Re: MBAM & Evidense Eliminator

Yep, I know that since they have been found out and received complaints, they have removed the particular download partner, however, just make me think "pot and kettle" I would have no faith in them as a company any more.

 

Re: MBAM & Evidense Eliminator

Rubbish!...

They're in the good company of AVG, BitDefender, Avast, Nod32, Norton, QuickHeal, Panda, Avira, Kaspersky, SUPERantispyware, Spyware Doctor, SpoyBot S&D and many others.

All of them can be downloaded through Brothersoft

http://www.brothersoft.com/downloads/antivirus.html

 

Re: MBAM & Evidense Eliminator

Go and tell the people here:

https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=214187

Does not bother me as I dont use MBAM