Now, some people really hate that people ask about this. Others welcome as many alternatives to updating software. Pretty much, most common situation is a local update of definitions for ewido/AVG on a computer w/ busted or compromised internet that is sucking down more baddies per second when connected. Then you could put it on a CD or usb/flash drive. Why is Ewido left out? Alot of people apparently are reverting to earlier versions... just like Ad-aware SE vs. Ad-aware 2007? Guess newer means more buggy. http://www.ewido.net/en/download/updates/ Above, I see that AVG still has the manual updates but ewido does not have a section I can see or find. An older link posted on these forums led me to a 194kb download w/ definitions that were dated '7/10/2006', now that tells me that wasn't updated since then. Specifically that was while getting the 'current' definitions, not the full which is 7 MB. Ewido manual update link: http://download.ewido.net/ewido-signatures-current.exe So, I tried the AVG one b/c they must be using the same database, right? But after running it, since it couldn't find the AVG directory and prompted me to find one for it, I decided not to at the risk that installer was specifically setup for AVG and might confuse or corrupt my ewido database. Nitpick: Why does the manual def. download link for AVG read 'Download starten'? What sense does that make? Rename it 'Download now'. As I said nitpick. But 'starten' is not a word.