M$ wants access to your private information

Hello,
It's very convenient to bash Microsoft. And probably needed. Kinda underdog, kinda David and Goliath.
Tracking hundreds of millions of PCs worldwide is practically impossible. Even if Big Brother wants to track anyone - of course assuming they have control only within USA that is, but for the sake of argument, everyone - how are they going to enforce it exactly?
So they will know that 44 million American citizens go to porn site, gamble etc, and another 100 million Europeans do that. And what then? What happens exactly?
Taxes were mentioned. And cheques? How many people have records of their cheque transaction on their pc, or taxes? Even if you buy stuff only, data is not stored locally on your pc, unless you deliberately save it.
But why go so far?
You have Windows installed right now? It could have a "Big Brothered" kernel already, which is dialing MPIA and RIAA for every song and movie you listen and sending info about your files.
But . . .
It's not that way. Plug a Windows machine through a Linux gateway and sniff the packets. And you will see nothing special happens.
Not because they can't do it / don't want to do it.
It's simply undoable.
Even if you have one clerk per ten citizens monitoring "evil" activities, assuming you can sort the crazy junk people have on their pcs, it would take precious trillions of dollars to maintain any reasonably effective vigil.
Yes, Big Brother is there, and he wants to own us.
Yes, they are bloodsuckers, and we need to own the system back.
But, practically, simply nothing happens. It's a mayhem of bits.
Mrk

 

Re: M$ wants to DELETE your files

Very true on the spying part.

But M$ is more than capable of deleting files on your HD (ie during windows update, or some other back door)
that it deems unacceptable. And this Bill gives them the right to do it.
They "helped" write it.

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(Telecommunications carrier, cable operator, computer hardware or software provider, or provider of information service) "detection or prevention of the unauthorized use of or fraudulent or other illegal activities in connection with a network, service, or computer software, including scanning for and removing computer software prescribed under this act."
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Re: M$ wants to DELETE your files

Why are you all worried about this anyway?

I would think that the only ones that have reason to worry are piraters. If you use legit software, they won't have to go and delete something you didnt' pay for would they?

[yes yes, it is all about the "rights" and what not. I just dont see why everyone thinks MS will indeed delete your files. Businessmen have better things to do you know. :T]

 

Huston ... We have major communication problem !
System failure 0X8080FE.

Have you ever heard of propaganda ? It's when they use empty expression like those to motivate anything.

Seriously, I do not see where or how it would restrict any of my freedom.
Exept if i am :
1) A Spyware coder.
2) An User who want to have spyware on my computer and want to pay my isp for removing them.

I only ask you one thing
Read the bill with that question in mind:
" IF I AM AN IT PROFESSIONAL HOW THIS BILL WILL PREVENT ME FROM DOING MY WORK ?"

You'll soon see that the problematic passage about removing spyware is only designed to keep legal, activity that where already legal. (TECH SUPPORT)

HOW THAT GOES AGAISNT YOUR FREEDOM ?
The state want help from microsoft ... yeah ... why not?

It's like an lawyer who want advice from a engeener
each one have it's speciality... and micorsoft surely know what a spyware is.


If you want something against microsoft ...
Fight against TCPA or software patent.

If you want good news from micosoft...
Just read on how TCPA scaled down from the the problematic thing it was.
You'll see that micocrosoft almost figth against it, but implemented the strict minimum to make MPAA/RIAA happy


I do not know why you talk about freedom of rigth, when you talk about a oklaoma law about spyware. Why not bash an antispam law while your at it ?
Or why not bash the antispam filter ... they read your email you know ?

 

You're right, there is a failure to communicate. I see you quoted one of the things i wrote in this thread, to set the record straight i wasn't talking about freedom, but the freedom of choice, wich is, in my opinion, a slight but significant difference.

Furthermore, i think it's up to you who to put your trust in, to each his own i think.This is just a matter of different opinions, nothing more.

regards
Lamehand

 

Re: M$ wants to DELETE your files

sounds like you would enjoy google in china ;P

a lot of discussion / point of views on this topic:
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/04/11/1630211&from=rss

enjoy yourself

 

Found this article from another unhappy M$ user on spying issues.Doesn't really bother me as ZAP controls my apps.

http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/431027/30/0/threaded

 

As stated by the Borg;

"Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated". Or was it MS that said that?

Regards
Lamehand

 

I've been taught everything is allowed as long as it abides by the rules. "laws" in this case. xP

And, yes, I think Google made the right decision in China.