Keriver 1-click Restore

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  1. pandlouk

    pandlouk Registered Member

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    Delete or move the "Keriver 1-Click Backup Folder" in another partition.

    The command is "/restoresnap" but it will BSOD you since it'll try to restore on the partition in use.
    You can do it from the recovery menu, but 1-click is not meant for this kind of operations (at least not with the original OS disk plugged in). Try Keriver if you want more flexibility.

    Panagiotis
     
  2. pandlouk

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    If you unplug the OS disk you will not have the mbr entry for keriver. 2010freesoho has told us that in the upcoming version they'll add the creation of cd/iso/usb recovery for this kind of situations.

    Panagiotis
     
  3. Atomas31

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    Hi,

    Just wondering how long does it take Keriver 1 click restore to make a snapshot? Is it as fast as Rollback RX or more like FD-ISR?

    How many spaces are taken by snapshots? Does it take as many space as you got on your C drive or is it more like Rollback RX?

    Is it compatible with FD-ISR (the original)?

    Thanks,
    Atomas31
     
  4. tyee

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    Well, I just ran keriver Image 5.0 on my system to test my scenario of main HD failure with a WinXP partition which includes a .vhd of Win7. I imaged that main HD to my eSATA backup, disconnected main HD and rebooted. Actually I did a clone, not an image.

    Result is the same as Drive Snapshot, instead of menu upon boot I get an error message with GUID and other specs, I then hit enter and it boots fine into WinXP. Can't get into the Win7 vhd. Bummer. What's going on? Two programs doing the same thing wrong, I don't think so. It must be me.
     
  5. Brian K

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    If the eSATA HD needs the same Disk Signature as the source HD, IFW "Copy" will do this.
     
  6. tyee

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    Hi Brian
    I will try that app next. I was reading around also and I might try after the image is created on the eSATA, connect that eSATA HD to the exact SATA port that my main HD is using and see if it works properly. That's the only thing left to try if the disk does indeed have the same signature.

    Also about the HIR, hardware independent restore. Remember I did get Shadowprotect to work a few days ago and that product does support HIR. I will try it again when I get back from holidays.
     
  7. Brian K

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    HIR doesn't apply to restoring an image to a HD that will be used in the same computer. It applies if you use that restored HD in another computer.

    I don't understand booting a .vhd. I haven't tried that. I use my .vhd files in Virtual PC.

    Edit ... You can use DiskPart to find out your Disk Signatures on each HD. I'll bet they are different. I've been using BING to view/edit the Disk Signatures.
     
  8. pandlouk

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    Tony,

    you must do something wrong (e.g. you do not respect the geometry of the imaged partition when you restore it on the new disk) or your bootmgr entries are problematic.

    You used bcdedit to add the entries or EasyBCD?
    In the following links you can find some info and examples about bcdedit commands
    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc721886(WS.10).aspx
    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc709667(WS.10).aspx
    and below about cloning and multibooting with bcd and bootmgr
    http://www.multibooters.co.uk/cloning.html
    http://www.multibooters.co.uk/multiboot.html
    http://www.multibooters.co.uk/articles/windows_seven.html

    Panagiotis
     
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  9. littlebits

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    When I installed Keriver 1-click Restore to my system, dual boot WinXP on one hard drive and Win7 on the other hard drive, it deleted Win7 boot loader.:eek:

    I installed it on my Win7 OS, then when I rebooted my system, it would just hang at the BIOS screen. Finally I used my WinXP OS disk and booted into WinXP. I used EasyBCD to re-install the boot loader. Still didn't fix the problem.

    So I used EasyBCD to set Win7 as my default OS and set it to 0 sec. Then I finally got to boot back into Win7. Uninstalled Keriver, reset my boot settings with EasyBCD, then re-booted and everything is working correctly again.

    I'm not sure what the problem is with Keriver, but it shouldn't delete your boot loader. I've tried several other backup and restore products in the past on my dual boot and they never caused any problems.

    Too bad that I never got to try Keriver, just thank god I had my WinXP disk, I couldn't find my Win7 disk at the time, it probably would been a better solution to fix the problem.

    Thanks.:)
     
  10. 2010freesoho

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    Sorry for the problem. Keriver 1-Click Restore doesn't support dual-boot now.

    But, to restore the boot loader, just need to uninstall Keriver 1-Click Restore.
    And, if you cannot boot into Windows and uninstall Keriver 1-Click Restore in Windows, please press 'Ctrl+Alt+U' to uninstall Keriver 1-Click Restore after booting into the recovery console.


    Thanks.
     
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  11. tyee

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    Panagiotis
    Here is the exact procedure I used to add a Win7 .vhd installation to my system. http://www.markwilson.co.uk/blog/2009/10/native-boot-from-vhd-on-a-windows-xp-computer.htm

    I added a comment at the bottom of this article (my name is tony) and I also printed my procedure to clarify it to other people. It does work just fine. Yes, I used bcdedit as it shows.

    When I get back home from holidays I will try again with Drive Snapshot. Using DS I do select to restore partitions and the disk signature but I haven't confirmed the disk signature is identical, like Brian suggested above. What's the best way to do this using Diskpart? I suspect I'll have to run it from my Win7 boot, yes?

    2010freesoho
    I installled Keriver 1-Click restore yesterday using this dual boot WinXP and Win7 .vhd and it does show your menu at boot time and I can select to boot into WinXP or Win7 easily. So 1-Click is not disturbing my dual boot menu at all. I am selecting to boot the normal way, which brings me to my boot menu.
     
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  12. pandlouk

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    Yes, use diskpart to confirm both the disk signature and bcdedit to confirm the guids in the bootmgr.

    Panagiotis
     
  13. TheKid7

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    In your opinion, is Keriver 1-click Restore Free ready for the "typical" inexperienced home user?

    I was thinking that I could show home users how to resize their C: partition so that another data partition may be added to the same hard drive. They could use the other data partition to store the snapshots. I know a lot of people who want a simple and reliable System Partition Backup/Restore software that is free.

    Thanks in Advance.
     
  14. ruinebabine

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    I checked Keriver Image 5.0 on win7x64 and she made this kinda task a treat :) :thumb:

    From CD Recovery, I backed up and restored my C:\ (primary + active) of 27.6GB (do I needed to "make it bootable?")

    backup = 8min15
    restore = 7min50
    Edit - I forgot to state about the image size at 12.0GB ("normal compression")

    It went all very smooth and easy...
    (btw, a clock might be a neat addition there? ;-)

    I also played Keriver within windows by backing up a 93 MB partition ("NEW MBR ENT" - boring part. that I wanted to get rid of) from a usb HD and ask her to put the image on a 8GB key. Oops little problem here with this tricky test because after waiting long minutes to begin (+ 1 café), the progress bar touched barely the 04% mark and says "410 minutes to go!" And it finally gave it up by telling "not anough free space on the disk...
    What did I do wrong? (should also note that I tried the test with asking her for full compression)

    Also a little annoyance, disk/partition's names can be abit misleading on some pages (sources and destinations) for a casual user like me (I had 15 partitions used on this system).
     
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  15. 2010freesoho

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    Hi,
    Sorry for the problem.
    Regarding to the problem of backing up a 93 MB partition, I need to know what the word "NEW MBR ENT" means. Is it Extended Master Boot Record?

    Regarding to the annoyance, could you please give us some suggestions to improve these issues?

    Thanks.
     
  16. ruinebabine

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    You don't have to be sorry 2010freesoho because I was simply trying all my best to dig any bug in Keriver Image and all I found was only some little glitches probably particular to my setting & my using of the french version...
    Yes, as you said, it is probably the Extended Master Boot Record, and I wanted to back up before to try to delete it. This little partition was annoying me by taking apart one drive letter away for itself, and I don't have that many of them left to spend with my crazy partitioning (is it an addiction? :)

    I will take some snapshots (I am on my old XP Pro box where K-I is not installed) and come back here tomorrow. And, more, right now I have to clean the oven in the dining room... o_O :ouch:

    Big thanks for your programs and the neat support you are giving us here. See you later!
     
  17. ruinebabine

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    Could someone please tell me of a way to take snapshots inside of the cd recovery if I don't have a camera?
     
  18. ruinebabine

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    Ok River, I should be able to burrow my sister's digital camera today and will be here later with more info...

    edit River, your PM box is full right now, could you please make a little room for another one more...
     
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  19. 2010freesoho

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    Hi Ruinebabine,
    I am truly grateful for all your help.
    I have deleted some messages from the PM box. I should say that the PM box is really too small to me. I don't wish to remove all the messages all at once, so it really cost time and energy to maintain.

    Thanks again.
     
  20. ruinebabine

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    Hi River,

    First, about the 94MB "NEW MBR ENT" partition, I tried again but from the K-Image cd recovery this time, and guess what? it worked perfectly. I made a backup followed by a restore and all went perfectly well. And both processes were fast as h*ll (about 2 or 3 sec. each).

    Btw could you , or someone else, tell me what is the exact purpose of this particular partition? I don't have any extended partition that I know of on this external usb drive, and I don't see that on any of my other drives! It's FAT32 (i am on 7x64, if it ever could be related) and has 770KB in used...

    And about the tiny annoyance when using the cd recovery GUI, it is just that in the "Destination Disk or Partition" page per example the disks listing on the left is going like disk0 disk1 partitionG partitionH (letters do not correspond with the ones in use), etc. and I had to check on their properties to figure out what was what there and be able to make an accurate partition choice.

    [I took some screenshots with the camera but I will save you the eyes soring because I saw that I have zilch ability with her or I need more practicing! And how do you do to not have the flash reflecting in the display image?!?]

    And could you also tell me how I can do to have the cd recov always booting the GUI in french? I use windows 7 ultimate french installed on this system.

    Thanks.
     
  21. safeguy

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    Keriver 1CR (Free) seems like an interesting and appealing option for me seeing that most of the other imaging apps I've read about requires an external drive in order to achieve a proper 'restore' if Windows crashes whereas with ICR, the "boot menu recovery console" can probably save my day. It seems like the tool that I've been looking for all these while:thumb:

    I need to ask a few questions though:

    1. Is Keriver 1-click Restore compatible with a snapshot/rollback software like Eaz-Fix/Rollback RX/CTM? Can I use both at the same time? If yes, which pre-boot menu would come 1st and how would the sequence/structure of things be as a general rule of thumb? Any possible issues that I have to take note of?

    2. Does ICR require admin rights and if so would it work in a LUA account, provided one can elevate with UAC?

    3. How 'large' would the baseline image be if let's say my system drive right now is consuming 60GB? Is the image 'compressed' and if so, what is the ratio like? Please bear with me - I'm not well-versed with imaging apps.

    Thanks in advance to anyone who can clarify all of these for me.:)
     
  22. Brian K

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    safeguy,

    You have several options for storing your images. Each has pluses and minuses.

    Second internal HD
    External HD
    Another partition on the same HD as the OS
    USB flash drive
    Network share
    Optical media
    Web storage

    My preference is a second internal HD.
    For a laptop I like another partition on the same HD because it is convenient. Of course you do need to copy the images to another storage site occasionally in case the laptop HD fails.
     
  23. SourMilk

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    I've always use a second internal hard drive for imaging while keeping a copy of those images on an external hard drive. I'm a suspenders and belt kind of guy.

    SourMilk out
     
  24. safeguy

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    Thanks guys but my problem is I'm working from laptops. I don't own any desktop. I'm afraid 2nd internal HD isn't an option for me and as for external HD, I still don't have enough budget to afford one right now. I'm a poor unemployed bloke (student) waiting to serve my National Service:p

    I've got 2 pen-drives which are only 2GB and 1GB each and for which I use to keep my important documents/setup files only.

    The only option 1 have right now is "Another partition on the same HD as the OS". In this case, the way I see it is that most imaging apps are kind of 'useless' for me if I can't boot into the OS in the 1st place...with the exception of Keriver (the 1st I've seen).

    I still need someone to answer my previous queries please...
     
  25. Brian K

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    No, that's when imaging apps are most useful. Imaging apps are designed to restore the image when you can't boot into the OS. You boot from a CD or USB flash drive containing the imaging app software. This allows you to access your image and you restore it to the old OS partition or to a new empty HD.
     
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