How does this sound for layered security?

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by Inuyasha, Apr 19, 2003.

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  1. Inuyasha

    Inuyasha Registered Member

    Apr 18, 2003
    AV - F-prot
    AT - The cleaner
    Backup AV - Gladiator

    I was thinking of maybe AnVir Virus Buster running along with F-prot, cleaner and Outpost firewall.

    AnVir, don't know if it works but it scans memory for viruses and updates itself.

    What do you think about that for security and quick performance? My computer is 256 megs and I don't wanna slow down to much with Bigger AV's.

    I was thinking about that Ghostsurf program, it hides your IP and puts you behind thier which can't be seen.


    So how does that set-up sound?
  2. Patrice

    Patrice Registered Member

    Apr 15, 2003
    Hi Inuyasha!

    I can't say much about the mentioned software, because I don't use it myself. But I suggest that you install a firewall (for example Look'n'Stop) aside to hide your computer. You can even take a router into consideration -isn't such a bad idea.

    But don't forget, that you aren't safe 100% with using all these software!

    Best regards!

  3. Jonas

    Jonas Registered Member

    Oct 30, 2002
    Sounds pretty good, however as Patrice mentioned you need a firewall, router or both. I would also look at checking out some of the free firewalls, some love ZoneAlarm, i prefer Sygate. Also you need some Anti-Spyware software, check out AdAware, Spybot or they many others listed around the forum, both of the above mentioned are free, adaware, in limited capacity. I've used F-Prot i think its an excellent choice, if you want a free back-up scanner in addition to the ones you have why not just piriodically use one of the free online scanners like PcChillin by micro Trend or Panda, or Norton? Their free and won't bog down your system. I ran the cleaner and wasn't impressed, slow and not updated enough, why not try Trojan Hunter or BoClean for a reasonable fee, or if you more ambitious, try TDS.

    P.S. you might wanna check out some encryption software for extra security.

  4. the Tester

    the Tester Registered Member

    Jul 28, 2002
    The Gateway to the Blue Hills,WI.

    I think that you have a good idea with layered defense. ;)

    I don't use any of the programs that you listed.

    Jonas recommended some anti-spyware programs.
    That's good advice!
    Javacool has some good spyware protection programs also.I would look at Spyware Blaster and SpywareGuard in particular.Those two programs don't use much resources and are easy to use and update.

    If you decide to look at different anti-trojan programs,I use Trojan Hunter and TDS-3.
    They both are good in my opinion.
    TDS-3 is a suite(loaded with tools/utilities)program that takes a little study.
    They both have trial versions available.

    The Wilders home page has AT programs and other security programs listed and detailed.If you haven't checked that out,it has some interesting info.
  5. Innyasha

    Innyasha Guest

    Thanks, I changed around the list a bit, here's the new list.

    AV - AVK
    AT - The cleaner (though I don't think it actually works)
    Firewall - Sygate pro
    Spyware - Spycop

    I was thinking about reg security suite gold so I can dump The cleaner, I think Reg Gold is a great product with the right configuration.

    Also, I downloaded Kazaa today and I already got a Backdoor trojan launched with the program, my other AV (Bitdefender) didn't detect it, so I trashed it.

    I ran out and bought AVK right on the spot but what detected the trojan was Dr. web (Backup AV)

    So, I'm pretty good right about now with security, two solid AV's AVK/Dr. Web, a good firewall (sygate) and a so so AT - the cleaner.

    I don't want to slow do my system to much so I kinda wanna limit what I put on there that Starts up automatically.
  6. Pieter_Arntz

    Pieter_Arntz Spyware Veteran

    Apr 27, 2002
    Hi Innyasha,

    By installing KaZaa you probably got all the malware a computer needs to turn into a turtle.
    Please have a look here:


  7. Patrice

    Patrice Registered Member

    Apr 15, 2003
    Hi Innyasha!

    <Sorry Patrice, hacked/cracked software is against our TOS,Pieter>

    Best regards!

  8. root

    root Registered Member

    Feb 19, 2002
    Missouri, USA
    Just one comment from the peanut gallery. Since you have DrWeb, I would run it resident, with AVK backup.
    The reason? I think you will get better protection against Trojans with DrWeb as you use the Cleaner, and in my opinion although once a top notch AT, the Cleaner is no longer reliable AT protection.
    Anyone using P2P file sharing, IRC, Napster spin offs, etc needs all the protection they can get. :)
  9. Innyasha

    Innyasha Guest

    As soon as I installed Kazaa lite, I found a backdoor trojan with Dr. Web.

    I will probably remove Kazaa soon but thanks for the warning.
  10. Innyasha

    Innyasha Guest

    I felt that AVK was better than Dr. WEb since in comes with 2 engines (RAV/KAV).

    I'm going to download Trojanhunter 3.5 and dump The cleaner.

    Trojanhunter and AVk and starters and Dr. Web as a backup sounds good to me. I will also, get a startup manager to see what starts up automatically.

    I was going to get a proxy like surfguard but I don't think they are needed and to much of a hassle to set up.
  11. meneer

    meneer Registered Member

    Nov 27, 2002
    The Netherlands
    If you need peer-to-peer file sharing, go for shareaza (.com), on the Outpost forum there are rules for it. You can probably copy those for the lesser ( :p ) firewalls.

    Layered security is not only using different tools for different threats, that's just taking the necessary precautions. If one tool could do everything, layering would not be needed. So this is not the right definition...

    Layered protection means also managing your use of the computer (you are one of the threats (Kazaaaaaaahhh) and one of the measures ;) ) and infrastructure. In fact, when you're on Windows only, you still have to deal with all related risks, whereas by introducing new a platform, you can leave aside lots of measures. The router mentioned before is a usefull addition to a layered security infrastructure (provided that it is not a MS ISA firewall of course).

    When using Windows only you have to watch the Windows security patches almost on a daily basis, while you can skip most of them when you are not directly connected to the internet.

    Layered security means securing your applications (authorizations), your platforms (tools, baselines), your networks (for instance shares and trusts), your internet access (routers, firewalls) and your computer/security management (including what's called change management, or how do you manage what's running on your system).

    Sorry, a bit more then you probably want :)
  12. edsod

    edsod Guest

    And a very good registry cleaner ...
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