Emsisoft Online Armor 6.0 is out!

Discussion in 'other firewalls' started by Mops21, Oct 3, 2012.

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  1. stapp
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  2. bonedriven
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  3. Brandonn2010
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    Just tried the COMODO Leak Test against this with AppGuard disabled and it got 100%. That leak test tried to do some crazy stuff judging my some of the pop-ups, but OA stopped them all!
  4. chris1341
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    It passes them all just on it's own without AppGuard if you 'run safer'. Try some screen capture POCs though (SpyShelter ones for example). Screen capture on x 64 is OA's Achilles Heel IMO, although I realise it would likely have blocked execution earlier in the chain. Comodo, PFW and OP do much better on screen capture POCs though so room for improvement I think.
  5. Netherlands
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    Indeed the 64-bit protection is weak but they show the limitations on there website:

    • Self protection does not work
    • Keylogger protection is not yet implemented
    • Many advanced-mode capabilities are disabled
    • Webshield and Mail Shield only filter 32-bit processes

    http://www.online-armor.com/Window64.php
  6. siketa
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  7. m0unds
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    there you go.
  8. chris1341
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    m0unds, not sure where the quote came from but it's not accurate IME. Screen capture protection plus other finer settings are just not available in OA x 64.

    I'm sure, though can't find it, when 4.5 was released Emsisoft rep stated you cannot stop applications controlling the windows of other apps on x 64 so screen capture protection was impossible. Maybe others are using user level hooks Emsisoft (quite rightly) believe are not strong enough to achieve this but they still perform better than OA in these POCs at least.

    For example of Emsisoft confirmation of x 64 limitations see here http://www.emsisoft.com/en/info/oa/Programs.shtml. Also most screen capture POC on x 64 fail.

    I think Emsisoft are a great company with brilliant customer support and OA a top application but some things I really like in the product aren't as strong on x 64 as they are on x 32.

    Cheers
  9. m0unds
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    it came from the link in the post i quoted. emsisoft claiming full functionality on x64. there's a wacky disparity of claims in their documentation depending on where you look; the online armor website (non-emsisoft site) says lots of things are hobbled on x64, but that help doc (the one you linked) says only a handful of things are. couple that with the aforementioned statement of full functionality on emsisoft's product page, and it's hard to know what works and what doesn't.

    http://i.imgur.com/QKbkX.png - here's a screenshot if you don't feel like clicking on the link i quoted and searching for x64
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  10. Blues7
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    The online manual probably is a good starting place for info on the current builds...otherwise I'd submit a request to their tech support folks They're very responsive in my experience.

    https://www.emsisoft.com/en/info/oa/index.shtml
  11. Noob
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    Or you guys could ask Emsisoft in the EAM thread.
  12. m0unds
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    like i said though, their current marketing says one thing, help docs say something else. if i cared enough to find out, i'd probably just ask via a support request or on their forums. i was purely mentioning that they're claiming OA 6 is fully functional on x64 platforms.

    *EDIT* curiosity got the better of me, and I asked emsisoft. I was told that the product page (http://www.emsisoft.com/en/software/oa/) is the most accurate representation of the protection status of OA, and that it's fully functional on x64 versions of windows.
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  13. Victek
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    I recently installed Online Armor Free on Windows 7 x86 and I'm seeing consistent high CPU usage around 50%. Is this a known problem and is there a solution?
  14. Bigabe
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    No this isn't normal. OA has such a high CPU usage? After installing it is in learning mode, so maybe it is just checking out your processes?
  15. Victek
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    My understanding is OA is only briefly in learning mode when it starts for the first time and that's clearly indicated on the screen. After that it switches to normal filtering and that's when I saw the high CPU usage. I understand it's not "normal", but it's not unheard of either. A Google search shows a number of threads where people have talked about it.
  16. Bigabe
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    Maybe there is a conflict with another security tool of yours? Do you use any other HIPS or firewall? You are right about learning mode.
    OA is causing some boot delay, about 2 secs from cold boot, but I didn't notice any other high activity.

    Check if you are stuck in some kind of update routine? I had something like that with Outpost one time.
    Maybe you clicked on the wrong button during installation and you are now hindering some OS processes to work properly?
  17. Victek
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    The only resident security app I use is Webroot SecureAnywhere. Right now I have the Windows Firewall turned on, but it was off when OA was installed.
  18. stapp
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    OA is designed to turn off Windows Firewall at install.

    If you uninstall OA it turns Windows Firewall back on.
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