AVG is MUCH better than Nod32

Discussion in 'NOD32 version 1 Forum' started by adiel, Jan 28, 2003.

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  1. adiel
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    I don't understand why people think nod32 is a great av?i mean for the past 4 months i have been trying every av...avg,norton,mcafee,nod32,avp,rav,avant,panda,sophos.....and nod32 is last one on my list...ok leave the others....nod32 can't even compete the free edition of avg.avg can detect more virus than nod32...and when it comes to trojans...nod32 is a lamer..i copied some trojans from a cd on my pc for checking...avg detected about 70% where nod32 only detected about 30%..thats big difference...but for complete security NO AV and i mean NO AV come even close to Kaspersky AVP...no match
  2. Straight Shooter
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    :eek: {Sigh} Where's Rodzilla when you need him?

    To help you out, please look here; www.virusbtn.com

    See where your Antiviruses of choice rate compared to yours...

    :D
  3. Melwyn
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    Hehe :)

    Poor Rozilla, so much work, let him sleep a little, or go skiing, or fishing, or sharking, or any other thing :)

    But... about this post... no comment :cool:
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    Exact URL of AV testing

    http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archives/products.xml?table
  5. JacK
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    Hello adiel :)

    I think you should contact CNet/ZDNet : they are just looking for a great AV tester like you are, their former tester is not very trustfull :)

    BTW, do you know the difference between a virus and a trojan ?
    And between the server part and the client part of it ?

    Unfortunately, NOD32 cannot clean the trolls till now, maybe in a future release ?

    I am really glad to know a new AV/AT tester star has born :eek:D

    Rgds,
  6. Straight Shooter
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    :D

    Seriously, if I could give you some advice (you wouldn't be at WIlders unless you are a troll, or shill...) I think you have to understand that layered protection is best.. You have an anti virus look for virueses, an anti trojan look for trojans..

    Why don't you also read this link...

    http://www.nod32.com.au/nod32/awards/snakeoil.htm

    and learn more about what you're talking about...

    WHERE ARE YOU ROD!!?!!??!!??!!! o_O
  7. the Tester
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    Yep.Straight Shooter,you are right about layered protection!When I use an av program,I could care less whether or not it detects trojans.That's why I use an anti-trojan program and an anti-virus program.Adiel,you should check out the link supplied by Melwyn.I am not at all comfortable with AVG as an av program.That's the last program I had before switching to NOD32.But I guess in the end it comes down to what a person's preferrences are.I think that my preferrence is obvious. ;)
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    Im not sure if you hear the news up in the northern hemisphere but parts of australia ,especially Camberra , (where over 500 homes have been wiped out ) and large tracks of victoria and into new south wales , have been destroyed , including massive amounts of National Parks throughout these areas, the destruction to the animal kindoms and forests has been terrible, let alone private homes and lives. I think Nod (aust) is based in Queensland , and that may not be so influenced but I live a few thousand miles away in another country and the smog from the smoke is growing as it drifts across the tasman ocean. So may be they are helping to put out more than the anti virus fires .
  9. Madman
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    Tester,

    I too think layered protection is the right way, but exclusive protection for a particular menace is not depending on your surfing habits. A second opinion is always useful. And while mostly ignoring the troll who started this thread, I too would pick KAV over NOD32 anytime, anyplace because I feel safer with it (yes, EVEN purely as an antivirus solution) if it was a question of exclusivity.

    Having said that, I don't think there is as clear a winner for me in this category as there is in the AT one: TDS-3 is for me, streets ahead of the competition. With KAV's outstanding trojan detection as a bonus, I feel I don't really need a backup for TDS which is running resident along with KAV. NOD32 is a backup, but I'd be equally comfortable with Dr Web, Norman VC or RAV, with an eye out for the vastly improving Avast.
  10. Straight Shooter
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    :D
    Yeah, but this posting is developing into something else except a NOD32 forum for the product. I think it should either be closed or moved... maybe to other av's...
  11. xor
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    AVG... well.... NOD32 has at least a working heuristic for Win32 Virii it's not perfect but it has a good heuristic. And AVG ? AVG is free, yes. But this is not a technical reason that it's suposed to be better.
    Every AV program sucks in his own way and KAV is also not perfect.
    It's a memory waster in the newer versions since 3.5
    Beside this it has a good/excelent backdoor / trojan detection - much more better than all other available AT solutions together.
    The magic words here are type recognition with OPCode and not with section header names. This makes KAV almost "imun" against "script kiddie patching" of binaries.

    :D-xor-:D
  12. root
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    Sigh! :doubt: Seems they are everywhere you go now a days.
    No need for Rod. If you don't feed them, they loose interest and go away.
  13. rodzilla
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    > I don't understand why people think nod32 is a great av?

    I don't understand why you think you're a great antivirus tester.

    > i mean for the past 4 months i have been trying every av...avg,norton,mcafee,nod32,avp,rav,avant,panda,sophos

    Oh ... I see ... you've been a "virus expert" for a whole four months! How impressive!

    > .....and nod32 is last one on my list

    I imagine NOD32 would be on your list if it was free ... or if you could get a warez copy. (All you "free AV is the best AV" trolls wail the same song!)

    > ...ok leave the others....nod32 can't even compete the free edition of avg.avg can detect more virus than nod32

    ROFL

    AVG has one VB100 Award ... and that's the paid version, not the freebie you're ranting about.

    NOD32 has twenty VB100 Awards.

    I rest my case.

    > ...and when it comes to trojans

    Where have you ever read that NOD32 claims to be a Trojan detector ?

    > ...nod32 is a lamer

    I think it's obvious to everyone reading this forum who is the lamer!

    > ..i copied some trojans from a cd on my pc for checking...avg detected about 70% where nod32 only detected about 30%..thats big difference

    Wow! You have a Trojan CD! I guess that's why you think you're a "virus expert"!

    Sooner or later, every forum will attract a troll. This one attracted you.
  14. mrtwolman
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    Earth is flat,
    Windows 98 is a stable operating system
    and yes AVG is better than NOD32 (based on Virusbulletin records) :D :D :D
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    > Hello adiel :)

    > I think you should contact CNet/ZDNet : they are just looking for a great AV tester like you are, their former tester is not very trustfull :)

    Hahahahahahahah!

    Good one Jack !!!
  16. Tinribs
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    Thanks for your replies Rod, I was starting to waiver and was considering ditching Nod for AVG for a minute then ;) my mind is now at ease. :D
  17. rodzilla
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    > Thanks for your replies Rod, I was starting to waiver and was considering ditching Nod for AVG for a minute then ;) my mind is now at ease. :D

    Yeah ... the troll put up a persuasive case ... it almost had me convinced to switch to PoopScan and TrojanWank. :)
  18. FluxGFX
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    Yeah no kidding. Has far has I'm concern NOD32 is in the lead with alot of confidence from various reliable source.

    and reading http://www.nod32.com.au/nod32/awards/snakeoil.htm should illuminate some people
  19. Trevor Marsh
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    The Earth is flato_O I thought it was disc shaped and went through space on the back 4 giant elephants standing on a giant space turtle?? :D :D

    Trev
  20. Trevor Marshg
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    I'm not too sure as to the last paragraph of the "Snakeoil article". As far as I am aware by reading several AV testing sites KAV and F-Secure both score as well as NOD32. Mind I have to ingnore F-Secure on price and KAV due to it's high memory usage in the later versions, I hate "resource hogs" (mind I'm running Windows XP), so for me NOD32 is still the winner. Bottom line is you use what ever AV softwear you fee at home with.

    Trev
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    > I'm not too sure as to the last paragraph of the "Snakeoil article".

    With what do you disagree ?

    > As far as I am aware by reading several AV testing sites KAV and F-Secure both score as well as NOD32.

    Not according to Virus Bulletin ... and that's the test that counts.

    (CNet/ZDNet reviews will make you aware that NOD32 is pretty damn useless ... but that doesn't make it so in the real world.)

    > Mind I have to ingnore F-Secure on price and KAV due to it's high memory usage in the later versions, I hate "resource hogs" (mind I'm running Windows XP), so for me NOD32 is still the winner. Bottom line is you use what ever AV softwear you fee at home with.

    Yep. Some people feel more at home with PoopScan or whatever because it's free ... but that doesn't make their chosen program better than NOD32 ... only cheaper. :)
  22. FluxGFX
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    Damn right about that.
    It all comes to what you need your AV to do.
  23. Acadia
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    Not only does NOD constantly catch 100% of the viruses in independent testing, but it also catches 80% of the Trojans, not bad for a product that wasn't even designed to be a Trojan detector:
    http://www.pcflank.com/art26d.htm

    (But I still recommend also using a product that totally ignores viruses and searches ONLY for Trojans).

    Acadia
  24. Straight Shooter
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    "Avant?" Isn't that a car? The one that Studebaker used to build? I think you mean "Avast"!, Troll!.... Isn't it interesting? "A troll stops by and disappears...for it's the Power of Rodzilla, that he fears!"

    Thanks, Rod for stopping by.. I was starting to waiver, too! LOL
  25. Madsen DK
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    This one almost isnt worth commenting on.
    Adiel.
    As said by many here read the virusbtn.


    BTW: Just switched back to NAV.
    NOD made a too big impact on my system, and here is one you didnt
    know. Im really from MARS :D :D :D :D :D
    Regards
    Ole

    PS: sorry the sarcasm, but i cant help it.
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