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Old April 7th, 2008, 07:23 AM
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Old April 7th, 2008, 07:26 AM
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Wow! Trend Micro. Good work Avira and Eset.
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Again you have to know how to read such results and what the scores are worth in your positon.

PS Nice place for Clam AV

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Old April 7th, 2008, 07:42 AM
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LOL @ Microsoft. M$ bought B C A C D F C A

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Old April 7th, 2008, 07:50 AM
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I tried the one with the 99.8 detection rate!I think this graph sums it up rather well
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Old April 7th, 2008, 10:33 AM
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I don’t know what to think of all these tests will contradict each other (without mentioning the detection rate).

For AV-Comparatives, F-Prot is a real rocket for the scan speed, much more than Avira but a nightmare for false positives. Here, F-Prot is not bad for false positives, not bad for speed scan but below Avira. That is already two opposites, and yet I do not speak about the detection rate.

It's very simple: I don’t want to read anymore: tests about antivirus are too suggestive, too contradictory on the reports against each other.

With these tests, the more we know, less is known, in fact.
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Old April 7th, 2008, 10:40 AM
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With these tests, the more we know, less is known, in fact.

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Old April 7th, 2008, 10:41 AM
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Keep in mind that both F-PROT and Avira's heuristics/generic signatures have been greatly tweaked since November last year. F-PROT's improvement is particularly noticeable.
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Is there a link with more details?
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Old April 7th, 2008, 10:52 AM
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Is there a link with more details?
well the results where already discussed here:
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=202900
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Is there a link with more details?

or here

http://www.virusbtn.com/news/2008/03...008/03_13a.xml
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I knew if I kept McAfee long enough that it would eventually be better than Kaspersky!

(just kidding!!!!)
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Old April 7th, 2008, 11:51 AM
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Again you have to know how to read such results and what the scores are worth in your positon.

PS Nice place for Clam AV

Gerard

Indeed F all over.
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Even though results for avast! are good it appears older version was used...
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result's are like a joke
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And why didn't you read this?
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so, the same test Leo said? Any link otherwise ?
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With that comment you've just won a price. (No joke)
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Thank you very much Inspector Clouseau; it's really nice!!
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Old April 7th, 2008, 01:13 PM
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enjoy.

Now back to topic.
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Old April 7th, 2008, 01:57 PM
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Well done G Data
but poor detection on actively running rootkits though..
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Because there's so much to decipher at once, I assigned point values for each category (A = 5, F = 1) and did a straight average. The best score possible is 5 and the worst is 1. I didn't weigh the values because what each person thinks is important will vary.

Here are the results, by overall score (i.e., higher is better) and alphabetically:

Product - Average
AntiVir (Avira) - 4.50
Norton (Symantec) - 4.50
Nod32 (Eset) - 4.38
Sophos - 4.38
Trend Micro - 4.25
McAfee - 4.13
F-Secure - 4.00
Panda - 4.00
Ikarus - 3.88
Avast! (Alwil) - 3.75
AVG - 3.75
BitDefender - 3.75
Kaspersky - 3.63
ZoneAlarm - 3.50
Dr Web - 3.38
Rising - 3.38
AVK (G Data) - 3.25
F-Prot (Frisk) - 3.25
Microsoft - 3.25
Norman - 3.13
TrustPort - 3.13
VBA32 - 3.13
eScan - 2.88
eTrust/VET (CA) - 2.75
QuickHeal (CAT) - 2.63
VirusBuster - 2.63
ClamAV - 1.75
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Quote:
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Indeed F all over.
See response times to new outbreaks
Quote:
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With these tests, the more we know, less is known, in fact.
Sometimes I have the same feeling. But I guess we can asses a "good enough" picture of an AV cross-checking different tests and observing the evolution in time.
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I didn't weigh the values because what each person thinks is important will vary.
..and because of this, your ranking's value is zero IMHO.
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Old April 7th, 2008, 02:46 PM
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Because there's so much to decipher at once, I assigned point values for each category (A = 5, F = 1) and did a straight average. The best score possible is 5 and the worst is 1. I didn't weigh the values because what each person thinks is important will vary.

Here are the results, by overall score (i.e., higher is better) and alphabetically:

Product - Average
AntiVir (Avira) - 4.50
Norton (Symantec) - 4.50
Nod32 (Eset) - 4.38
Sophos - 4.38
Trend Micro - 4.25
McAfee - 4.13
F-Secure - 4.00
Panda - 4.00
Ikarus - 3.88
Avast! (Alwil) - 3.75
AVG - 3.75
BitDefender - 3.75
Kaspersky - 3.63
ZoneAlarm - 3.50
Dr Web - 3.38
Rising - 3.38
AVK (G Data) - 3.25
F-Prot (Frisk) - 3.25
Microsoft - 3.25
Norman - 3.13
TrustPort - 3.13
VBA32 - 3.13
eScan - 2.88
eTrust/VET (CA) - 2.75
QuickHeal (CAT) - 2.63
VirusBuster - 2.63
ClamAV - 1.75


Thank you and confirms the empirical testing we have done.
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..and because of this, your ranking's value is zero IMHO.
You can do your own weighting to get the picture you're interested in:
- Detection rates: Both (malware and ad/spyware) detection rates.
- Scanning engine: Detection rates + scanning speed + FPs + proactive detection rates.
- "Proactive attitude": Proactive detection rates + response times to outbreaks.
- Flat file scanning: Detection rates + scanning speed + FPs + proactive detection rates response times to outbreaks.
- Detection and removal: Detection rates + rootkit detection + cleaning.
And more.
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