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Discussion in 'ESET NOD32 Antivirus' started by eezdva, Oct 5, 2009.

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  1. eezdva

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    These tests are not designed by experts, nor were conducted under special conditions, so do not believe them.
     
  3. eezdva

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    What is there to believe?

    It's very clear what they do right?

    Download viruses from the internet and Eset has to find them. One of these guys I follow a lot . I trust what he does (mrizos) he has no reason to cheat or lie about anything.
     
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    If this were so, ESET would recognize only tests of independent organizations such as AV-Comparatives. The tests, which you can trust are those of the AV-Comparatives, Virus Bulletin 100% and AV-Test.org. Tests to be made by specialists in special circumstances. Testing one antivirus program has its peculiarities is not doing as mrizos.
     
  5. eezdva

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    I understand ,AV- comparitives is the one I trust a lot aswell too. But...

    They way these guys do their reviews is more how someone at home would use the programm. I have to say that in most of the reviews ESET is not doing that well.
     
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    It's quite an old test (see how old v4 build was used). Anyways, no AV detects 100% out of all threats and everybody could conduct a test where an obscure Chinese antivirus program would have 100% detection while well known brands would score 0%. Simply using one or just a few samples as a test set is not valid from the statistical point of view which is one of the conditions a valid and trustworthy test must fulfill.
     
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    Yeah I like Matts quick reviews.
     
  8. eezdva

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    Test NR 2 ( the second link) has been done yesterday o_O With the latest versions. If you look at this review ESET seems rather buggy. You can't deny that.

    Don't get my wrong I am a huge ESET and will keep using it . But I can't deny this is just not good. I mean I don't think I will get a virus this way , cause you do need to go to wrong site I guess to get redirected and get a virus installed this way. But a another user who knows less about a PC might. Right? You might get on a Chinese site without you knowing.
     
  9. Marcos

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    Ok, you can take any antivirus and test a rogue AV downloader against it. It will most likely fail if the downloader is reasonably new. If not on the first sample, it will surely fail on the second or third as these rogue AVs are modified every while to evade detection and continue earning money from common people. A test comprising of one or a few samples is irrelevant and doesn't say how well the AV program protects you. An AV program targetting at rogue AVs may detect, let's say 80-90% of rogue AVs, but will miss millions of other threats available on the net.
     
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    Is a rogue not spyware and shouldn't it protect against it.

    In the second review ESET keeps blocking an internet address , eventhough it was already detected.
     
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    aaaaaaaaaaahhh those tests are conducted with real daily viruses dude...youtube is full with reviews especially with nod32(god knows why)
     
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    why only those test are recognized?because eset pays av-comparatives and so on companies to rank eset in the first positions?these test are (the youtube ones) are made in a daily surfing routine...when i open my laptop i am not in a lab with 100 specialists near me...i am alone and just surfing and getting infected...
     
  13. bradtech

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    I think he just tests 10 different malware samples probably taken off malwaredomains website or some other site that tracks zero day malware authors.. I'd trust the reviews where vendors throw 100,000s of samples against the AV vendors.
     
  14. eezdva

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    True but ESET is an anti-virus that says they are one of the best if not THE best at zero-day threats?
     
  15. bradtech

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    I watch matt's videos also, I'm just saying he does not have the resources to test each AV thoroughly. Getting Five or Ten different variants in the wild, and testing isn't near enough. Your best bet against Zero Day attacks are Behavior based protection suites anyway..
     
  16. eezdva

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    Yeah , hopefully ESET will add that next time.
     
  17. bradtech

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    I do see where sometimes NOD32 will catch the executables, and get rid of the virus essentially but may not do as well cleaning up the lnk files, and some stuff left behind in the registry or random dll files.. I think there are so many new threats coming out so fast that they are working as hard as they can to get rid of the core essential part of the Variant that runs.
     
  18. ASpace

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    One must be a complete idiot to pay them anything . They all look so fake that it can't be more ... fake
     
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    I agree with that too. I "trust " AV-comparitives. But to see it with your own eyes is just a bit better. AV-comparitives could be paid. Or a big fan of certain products. Like Pc-mag always loves Norton.
     
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    What about the latest VB - October ? Have you read the latest issue ? Although they don't test against rogues - Good job ! :thumb:
     
  22. bradtech

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    I honestly agree 100% with the users above opinion on seeing it for yourself.. I have for my entire working adult life seen Symantec have equal or better than NOD32 detections even during the 2.7 days on websites.. I just replaced Symantec Coprorate Edition here on 2,000-2,500 clients, and servers. I literally had 100s of viruses unfound on users computers that had up to date Symantec on them. I used to sell Mcafee, and Symantec to people at a small store while I was in college, and then bring machines back that got infected, and cleaned them with my personal Copies of NOD32 2.7, and Spyware Doctor.

    I DO pay some attention to av-comparatives, and other testing sites but I know that with my real life experiences, and what I have witnessed that the only product I have a deep appreciation for are NOD32, PC Tools Spyware Doctor, and here lately PrevX/Threatfire.I do like the Cloud technologies emerging that also will query a cloud about an unknown file, and see what others have labeled it as or what advanced heuristics says.
     
  23. eezdva

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    They don't show G-data or Avira there. They score higher?

    Anyways I always prefer ESET.
     
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    Oh thats BS. Tell my PC last month with Eset and Fake AV that hit it and destroyed it basically.

    Today, I went a hunting and found a rogue site with Fake AV and G-Data kicked its ass with no remnants. Actually it never got loaded. That is my real-time, real-world testing. Nuff said.
     
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    Eset is a sissy-mary at cleaning. Its true.

    G-Data reminds me of Mike Tyson biting the ear off of malware.
     
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