Wireless Mouse..Blues Tooth Mouse..?

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  1. hayc59

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    I have everything wireless..keyboard...mouse..printer( and my wife) hehehe not really
    anyways she bought me out of the kindness of her heart, and not knowing
    a bluestooth logitech 535 blue tooth mouse...will it work just like wireless?
    or should i return it for a wireless one? thank you for the help
    G
     
  2. roger_m

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    Depends on whether your device has built-in Bluetooth support. Otherwise, you'll need a USB dongle or something like that.
     
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    I had a Bluetooth mouse years ago because my notebook had an internal Bluetooth radio. I bought it because at the time the USB dongle for a wireless mouse was pretty large, and I figured I would break it at some point. The Bluetooth mouse worked fine except about every 15-20 minutes it would lose contact with the radio and freeze for 5-7 seconds. When I noticed that the newer wireless mice were coming out with a tiny wireless dongle, I bought one and found it worked much better than the Bluetooth mouse. I'll never use a Bluetooth mouse again, although the issue may have been confined to my notebook and setup.
     
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    @Cloudcroft I think the freezing issue is due to the power saving settings. I had similar issues with a bluetooth mouse a few years ago. At the time I assumed it was issues due it being a really cheap mouse I bought from China. I've never tried it again with the bluetooth power saving setting disabled as I don't use a mouse anymore (just the touchpads on my laptops).
     
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    I am currently using a logitech mx master with bluetooth (not the included wireless adapter) and i havent had a single problem. My only complaint is you cant use your mouse outside of windows (UEFI, bootable devices etc.)
     
  7. Bill_Bright

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    I think you are confused. Bluetooth is wireless.

    Logitech 535 Bluetooth Mouse Setup Guide.
     
  8. roger_m

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    @Bill_Bright Technically that is the case, but they operate differently. With a wireless mouse you just plug in the USB receiver, and as soon as Windows has installed the driver for it you're good to go. To use a bluetooth mouse, you need a computer with bluetooth, and need to pair it.
     
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  9. Bill_Bright

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    No. Sorry roger but that is not necessarily true.

    BT works exactly the same way as what you are calling a wireless mouse - and that is because BT and wireless are basically the same, they are both RF (radio frequency devices) and that means both must have receivers in the computers and those receivers are either plug in USB devices, or built into the computer or motherboard. With your wireless mouse the receiver and mouse come from the factory "paired" that is, tuned to the same frequency or "channel".

    "Wireless" only lets you work with that one device. But with BT, you can pair different devices. While many notebooks and PC motherboards come with a BT receiver built in, not all do so then you need to connect a receiver.

    And much depends on the BT device whether you need to manually pair it, or not. For example, I have several different Microsoft BT keyboard and mouse sets. By "set", I mean the keyboard and mouse come together (but they can be separate too). On my latest build, I have the 5050 set and this set comes with a USB receiver (dongle) already configured (paired). So to make it work, you do exactly the same as you do with the standard "wireless" mouse - you plug in the receiver and you are good to go - no pairing necessary.

    So they don't really "operate" differently at all. It is just that BT uses BT standard BT frequencies and allows you to use the device with other devices that also support BT.

    So while wireless mice use different frequencies than BT mice, they operate exactly the same way - and both must have receivers connected to the computer. It is just that BT is becoming more popular so many notebooks and PC motherboards have BT integrated. If not, then just like wireless you must add a dongle. And if the dongle comes with the mouse, most likely you will not have to manually pair them. That is done at the factory.
     
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    @Bill_Bright I may of course be wrong, but I'm not aware of any blutetooth mice which come with a bluetooth dongle. Which means, you need will need a computer with bluetooth, or need to add a bluetooth card or dongle.

    The keyboard and mouse you linked to do not use bluetooth.
     
  11. J_L

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    I had that with one specific mouse no matter which device I use. It's the Microsoft Sculpt Comfort Mouse. I also have a Rocketfish Bluetooth Mouse and Logitech Ultrathin Touch Mouse (supports two pairings), both of which works without disconnection issues regardless of power saving settings.

    I had non-Bluetooth wireless mice with dongles before, but prefer not losing a USB port since all of my devices has Bluetooth support built-in.
     
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    I have a BT mouse (7 years old) which works with my machines with BT capability. I use it as replacement mouse only because the battery doesn't last as long as the non BT ones (it is old, therefore latest models might have extended their battery autonomy).
     
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    It was a Microsoft Bluetooth mouse I was using, but I had other Bluetooth issues with this Dell notebook, so I never figured out where the problem lay. I was printing with HP Bluetooth drivers to an HP printer which accepted a Bluetooth dongle, and the drivers possibly kept my notebook from waking up if I closed the screen/lid. I tried changing different drivers, which never worked, even tried installing a different Bluetooth radio, uninstalling HP Bluetooth printer drivers, nothing helped. Other people were having the same issue on the Dell forums, and if I remember correctly, Dell sort of admitted it was a known issue, but one they never bothered to solve. I finally uninstalled the Bluetooth radio and chunked it in the trash can....that was the end of my Bluetooth issues.
     
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    "Use a wireless mouse? This $15 hack could compromise your laptop
    "Mousejacking" takes advantage of a flaw in many wireless USB dongles.............

    Thankfully, the vulnerability doesn't affect Bluetooth devices,..........."

    http://www.cnet.com/uk/news/i-got-mousejacked/
     
  15. pajenn

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    in my very limited experience USB wireless mice work a little bit better than bluetooth mice (stronger signal, further reach, less conflicts) and they are cheaper, but with a bluetooth device you don't need a free USB port, so there's that (assuming your laptop/tablet/phone has built-in bluetooth support). I use a USB mouse with my small 8" Windows tablet, which only has one mini-USB port, and it work really well while the mouse is next to it and there are no other bluetooth devices connected to it. I also have a bluetooth slide changer and keyboard for it, which I almost never use because they don't work as well as a regular wireless slide changer and keyboard.
     
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