wiping free space vs wiping whole disk

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  1. wutsup

    wutsup Registered Member

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    hey wilders,

    im just wondering is there any big difference between DBANing a harddrive and using Ccleaner's wipe free space other than of course dban wipes everything and ccleaner only wipes the free space.

    would they both accomplish overwriting the "deleted" files in that hard drive? (lets say that both hard drives have no files or anything in them)
     
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    anyone?
     
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    Cudni Global Moderator

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    dban would wipe the whole drive while ccleaner only free space. Both useful depending the aim
     
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    Hey There wutsup

    How's Threatfire treatin ya??

    It's my understanding that ccleaner doesn't do a very good job "wiping" files so i would look in another direction ;)

    Here are 3 freebies:

    Eraser - http://sourceforge.net/projects/eraser/ I've used it but is buggy on my system. Many settings.

    Freeaser - http://www.codyssey.com/ Works fine but not as fast as File Shredder. Settings are 1, 3 and gutman 35 pass.

    File Shredder - http://www.fileshredder.org/ This one works great and like how it renames the file on the last pass. Multiple settings.
     
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    how do you know that ccleaner's wipe free space option isnt as good as the other programs you listed? explain please

    doesnt ccleaner's wipe free space overwrite the "deleted files" like DBAN?
     
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    tobacco Frequent Poster

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    Just download some undelete/file recovery tools - wipe your drive/partition with ccleaner and then see if you find anything recoverable. You want wipe tools that also eliminate file names as well.
     
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    oh so youve tested it out yourself?
     
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    No i haven't which is why i suggested you give it a test if you wish to continue using it. Let us know your findings ok!
     
  9. BoerenkoolMetWorst

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    I read a test once, where they let CCleaner wipe the free space with triple overwrite. Once CCleaner was done, they could still recover a lot of files.
    Also from my own experience, I tried 1, 3, 7, and 35 times overwriting and they all took about the same amount of time, that alone should be proof that it's not working correctly.
     
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    Here is an example of File Shredder wiping the filename, renaming and wiping again on the last pass. As you see, the file name "Rain" was changed to a bunch of numbers before final wiping. I only noticed this because the wiping cannot complete until my GOM player is shutdown and releases the video file. This is my understanding how it works anyways!

    Another freebie here that runs portable - http://portableapps.com/news/2009-10-13_-_eraserdrop_portable_2.1
     

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