Okay, as a user. I've now had a second Windows update install produce the same problem. Namely, click Windows Icon > Start Menu does not display. Click clock Icon > calendar does not display. So, I was trying to gather insight as to whether 5.1 might be causal. With 5.0, as far as I know, my Windows Updates were okay. Okay, so how would I know if Secure Rules needs to be disabled? Regards w Respect.