Windows Defender Is Becoming the Powerful Antivirus That Windows 10 Needs

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by Secondmineboy, Jan 30, 2016.

  1. xxJackxx

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    I see it as a copy of what Linux does when it needs administrative access. In that case there is no yes/no ok/cancel button, you get to type the password. Every single time.
     
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    Last full scan I did was 9 minutes and 59 seconds, I'll check the quick scan when I get home.
     
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    Oh dear me @xxJackxx, i couldn't handle that at all.
     
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    1 minute and 50 seconds here...
     
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    I find that they usually vary. Usually pretty short, occasionally up to 6-9 minutes maybe.
     
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    The quick scan was 3 minutes and 15 seconds.
     
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    OK, my Windows 11 drive is installed and...blech.:thumbd:

    Windows 10 quick scan--29 seconds. Windows 11 quick scan--2 minutes 12 sec. Similar amounts of stuff scanned. 39K+ Intel i9 processor and nvm-e drive.

    ] win11 quick scan.png

    But then, other Windows functions on here like sfc and dism take MUCH longer to complete in 11 also. Some keep saying: if you don't have an Intel 13th gen. cpu, don't bother w/Windows 11. Right. I'll keep it around anyway for the heck of it.
     
  8. EASTER

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    That's too bad and really a disappointment that Microsoft didn't see to it that responsiveness is the key and that goes the same for other software's i assume which are equally important.

    My Windows 10 DELL is ready for the upgrade but i have to really study more on potential let downs like yours from others across the broad spectrum of users of it.
     
  9. xxJackxx

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    I've not seen that claim. Seems to run fine on my 10th gen i9. I've even hacked it to run on a 4th gen i7 and it seems fine. If there are issues it is likely something else or some combination of factors.
     
  10. plat

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    Pfft, I see it quite often. It's a core-thing, it seems. It is what it is.

    If the OS isn't corrupt what else could it be?

    Although, I haven't reinstalled the OS since...never. Maybe that would cure it. If it was the daily, I would do it. But it's not so it's not an urgent matter at all. Just an eye-opener to see the difference there.

    Everyone's setup varies. I wish I could conjure up the liking for 11 some others have.
     
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    How is Windows 11 responsiveness. In any unit or computer rig it would seem, and it does come down somewhat to what (for lack of a better term) horsepower if you will, and the memory (other internal hardware) to reach an O/S's maximum quickness with absolutely no lag.

    Which also i would have to say Windows famous one & only driving force for it's GUI, Explore.exe.
     
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    Seems fine. It was actually faster than Windows 10 on the 4th gen. Replacing Defender with Kaspersky sped it up even more. On the i9 I don't notice much difference between 10 and 11. Windows 11 does seem more consistent on the 4k monitor than 10. Less scaling issues.
     
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    Possibly drivers or software the PC doesn't like. I've seen drivers for Wi-Fi cards that otherwise seemed to work cause issues that took a while to identify. System ran fine after removing the card.
     
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    That is a very important detail @xxJackxx - As some suspect, even if WD might become or already is, relatively adequate there's an obvious hit on resources. Thank You
     
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    Hmmm. I will have to look into this, seriously. I'd forgotten that some drivers needed to be updated specifically for 11. Maybe some Intel chipset drivers need updating--sorry to say this drive is woefully neglected. Thanks for the reminder. Next time, definitely.

    I doubt it's Defender, though. In some areas like games opening and such, 11 is slightly faster.
     
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    The Quick Scan, for me at least, on Win 11 21H2 has no consistency. Scan times can run from a couple minutes to about nine minutes, with number of files scanned ranging from about 19k to 45k. Go figure? I don't care because it runs in the background and all I notice is an increase in laptop fan speed while it runs.
     
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    Linux has got it perfectly right. The idea is to limit the ability to make significant system changes to only those who can do so responsibly.
     
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    OK so you would take most of these tests with a grain of salt, by the lack of testing done with true zero days, if I understood correctly.

    And I also wonder if these test take into consideration how hackers would try to bypass and even terminate security tools. On the PC Security Channel I saw Malwarebytes being terminated by Ryuk while tamper protection was enabled.

    Although it does seem that the anti-ransomware test done by SE Labs against CrowdStrike Falcon seems to be quite comprehensive. On the other hand, they tested only 9 samples which were used in real life to attack organizations.

    https://selabs.uk/reports/enterprise-advanced-security-ransomware-crowdstrike-2022-oct/
     
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