Windows Blue build 9364 leaked to the internet

Microsoft is arrogant and isn't listening to its desktop customer base. Someone else will LISTEN and give people what they want. Then Microsoft's days are numbered.

 

I don't think that the desktop is going away anytime soon. Look at pc gaming as just one example. Steam has a 40+ million membership. That's just listing one of many reasons.

Speaking of Steam, Newell's decision to add Linux a little while back is starting sound a little more attractive.

No doubt. They've been playing catch-up with Google for years.

 

They're playing a dangerous game... All someone like Apple would have to do is drop their prices and they could suck up another 10% of the market in no time.

 

*Sigh* I can-t believe this.

 

Message to desktops users - IF this is the future of Windows....
Welcome to Microsoft's - 'we'll do it MY way!'

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2031999/why-windows-blue-heralds-the-death-of-the-desktop.html

 

http://arstechnica.com/features/2012/10/windows-8-and-winrt-everything-old-is-new-again/

"...Microsoft is taking a risk with WinRT, as developers may not follow it, but it's a calculated risk, and it's a low risk. The re-use and modernization of existing technology gives WinRT instant familiarity for developers, but also an easy path for Microsoft to extend the reach and capabilities (and ease the restrictions) should it need to. It's at once the embodiment of Windows' future and the embracing of Windows' past."

BTW, WinRT is attracting devs.

Windows Store has, right now, more than 50000 apps.

http://www.engadget.com/2013/03/25/windows-store-unofficially-reaches-50000-apps/

 

And Extreme Tech, commenting on the tweaks to the Metro Control Panel said: "If you had any lingering doubts about whether Microsoft was trying to kill off the Desktop, here's confirmation."

 

http://features.techworld.com/personal-tech/3404094/10-reasons-why-desktop-pc-will-live-forever/

 

I can actually say that almost nobody I personally know cares about those reasons (even nerd friends, lol).

It's getting hard to see a regularly used desktop in homes.

 

warning loooong rant coming up


this is all crazy. i heard a rumor while back that they did not like the "start" apps from someone i know at ms. i also heard they would remove the ability for those to work soon enough and it seems they did that with blue as being reported in many places.

i agree with the general thoughts here. i HATE metro i will hate blue and im sure ill hate win9 since win 9 will forge ahead with this ridiculous garbage we are being force fed.

i HATE apps. i do not use them period. i want normal programs. i want my normal imaging programs, my av's, photoshop etc what will happen when you can no longer install those. how many companies go out of business because of it?? i will never use office 365 just because its a subscription based product and its way cheaper for me to buy a multi seat lic for office 2013 for my business then to pay for all those systems to renew 365.

what will happen to all of our favorite av companies and who will make it through this and stay around i see many gone in a few years time which is sad. i personally know a few developers who have been told by ms to "evolve" or die out. and those were the words used directly in a meeting they had with ms.

honestly IF all the major software companies had my programs for linux i would not have a single windows based pc. im fine with libre office instead of ms office. i like linux a lot but MANY of my main programs cant be used in it. yes i know about wine etc but not everything will work correctly from my past experiences. so ms has us by the hangers and i am forced to use windows.

this whole mess just ticks me off. with all the years of support they have been given and all the desktop users still out there (the majority of my main clients are still either laptop or desktop users) they are basically abandoning all of them. i get at least a dozen calls each week from people who have me remove win 8 to install their old copy of win 7 or a new one they just bought. and just like they ended sales of office 2010 just recently i for sure see them ending sales of win 7 very soon officially.

i do get some inside info from a few contacts at ms and while i cant say much i can say they simply dont care about the desktop market which is directly what im told. its not in their best interest to care. at least this is the way the people i know at ms tell it. i have been told down the line they want to be able to even control what is installed and what is even uninstalled on a future windows machine to aid in piracy prevention very similar to what is posted around online.

sorry for the long winded post and some may think im nuts but i can say my contacts are reliable and have been for years. and i just had to rant a bit about this. ms simply want to be what apple has been for years and we will be left using a old os hoping software companies still support it or forced to move on...

 

Published: 17:04, 09 October 2012......

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Windows 8 released on October 26, 2012

 

Perhaps you aren't looking hard enough.

 

It will be interesting to see how Canonical will fare with this new Chinese deal they are making for a Chinese form of Ubuntu. There are a billion Chinese.

 

zfactor,

I'm surprised. They must loath Metro so much that they haven't tried tweaking it.

Win8 is the best OS I've used. I don't use touch screen or Apps. I use my Win8 desktop much the same as I used a WinXP desktop. I like starting my programs from Metro or occasionally from a custom Start Menu I've created. Just shortcuts in a folder. I had to use Win7 yesterday and the old Start Menu annoyed me. Metro is easier.

 

The popularity of desktops is on an (practically) irreversible down spiral.

The signs are everywhere. Mere negation doesn't change reality.

 

The best selling desktops these days are the "All-in-One" kinds with touch screens and no DVD drives, btw.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/06/t...from-vizio-hp-and-apple-state-of-the-art.html

http://www.dell.com/us/p/desktops

The more I read about the current state of the market and consumer demands, the more Microsoft's decisions make sense for me.

 

Who says? Microsoft?

I think that reality is an undiscovered country for you mate.

 

The press, the market, consumers, etc.

I think you know nothing about me.

Perhaps, we live in very different "realities"?

 

Yes, we get it, you're a fanboi, but I have a friend who makes desktops & owns a shop/store & he tells me he is still making & selling as many conventional desktops as he always has. Is he imagining this? I doubt it. In the economic climate of today many people who really need a computer (particularly for work) are more likely to purchase a budget desktop than an expensive tablet or other device. For many people, including myself, a conventional desktop with a good keyboard is the best device to work on. I just don't see what you are claiming in colleges or libraries anywhere. You have confused MS marketing with reality, as usual.

 

Yeah, sure.

Only from what you write; which doesn't seem much like reality to me. Well, & that you had a previous user name.

I'm pretty sure of that!

 

Marketing?

http://www.extremetech.com/computin...ine-and-in-an-alarming-way-for-the-first-time

All that is true and can be seen where I live. Daily.

I don't know where you live, maybe you are living in a small province or something.

 

I think Microsoft life cycle is going to be shorter than anyone could predict.
And BTW, face it Microsoft! No matter how hard you try, you can not beat Apple!

 

Oh goody, more 'statistics' in a link. I didn't see that coming.

Well, I only live in a 'small province'. ROTFLMAO

You really should consider stand-up comedy as a career option. Honestly.

 

Well, the desktop will not die, but it sure won't vanish.
Power users will be power users.
Average users will use whatever is thrown at them.
People will embrace anything as long as it's shiny.

Look at the tape players vs. CD - IDENTICAL technology, and it took three decades to fully transition. Touch and desktop are two separate realities, and cannot be mutually replaced. Doesn't work.

As to sales going down - no, they are not going down, they are just not going as high as vampires would want them, that's all.

It's the same thing with electric cars. At first, everyone was, the internal combustion engine will die, blah blah. But it hasn't happened and won't happen any time soon. Unless electric cars offer functionality that rivals that of the alternative, which would be decent range and quick recharge/refuel.

Same here. Desktop will go away - the moment equivalent functionality is provided by means other than keyboard/mouse. Until that happens, it won't go away. As simple as that. And the formula for 24/7 high-end device will never go away.

Of course, the share will shrink, because most people do not need heavy high-end machines.

That's the only thing that changed. More accessibility to average users. And everyone is hyping this as if it's a big deal. It's just PC becoming more accessible to clueless people, that's all. Once the novelty wears off, people will move on to the next hype. And us nerds will gloat from the sidelines and count the money all the way to the bank.

Mrk

 

There's one more reason why certain companies would want fewer desktops. Money.

You buy a desktop, it lasts many years.
You buy laptops/tablets/smartphones, you rinse them often.
It's in everyone interest to sell cheap and lots of it, frequently.

A typical Windows user nowadays replaced their OS when they replace hardware. Microsoft wants them to replace it more often, so they can make multiple software revenue cycles on the same hardware.

Mrk