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Discussion in 'other software & services' started by ellison64, Sep 2, 2015.

  1. ellison64

    ellison64 Registered Member

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    I upgraded my laptop to win 10 ...didn't like it,because it seemed as if it was trying to be both 7 and 8.1 but ended up being neither,and have happily reverted back to windows 7.What has surprised me though over the last couple of weeks is how many of my friends and family ,have either reverted back to their previous windows (those who knew how to do to that through settings ) and those that wanted to revert back( but didn't know they could). I wonder whether this small snapshot of my experience of windows 10 is common or not? .I guess time will tell.
     
  2. Infected

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    I went back to 7 also. But I used AX64. Did a quick install of 7, takes about 20m, then used AX and reverted back.
     
  3. ellison64

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    I don't know about you ,but I was quite disappointed with windows 10.After all the hype of it being so different that microsoft called it 10 instead of 9 ,I expected something very different and ground breaking from both 7 and 8.I both visually and under the hood.But for the life of me I just cant find it.
     
  4. Kerodo

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    I have images of both 7 and 10 and use them both. 7 was familiar of course, but I also liked 10, in spite of all the criticisms. I'm on 10 now, but it's nice to know I can use either....
     
  5. Infected

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    I might give it another go when/if it gets a SP.
     
  6. Kerodo

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    I don't think they do SP's anymore starting with 10 (or maybe 8 I guess). It might go 10.1 or something like that, but from what I've heard, it's just going to be an ongoing work in progress that evolves as time goes on... That's how I understand it anyhow.

    10 seems to run very well here on my machine, perhaps even a bit better than 7.
     
  7. Infected

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    Yes, 10 does run exceptionally well. Just a few quirks that I don't care for. The main being updates and telemetry. I know there are programs to install updates manually. Just waiting on it. W7 still runs very well for me.
     
  8. ellison64

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    10 ran well on my laptop ,but it wasn't as fast booting as 7 for me.The "familiar" start menu that was brought back wasn't so familiar for me either.I found it long winded to navigate to programs.I have a windows 8.1 phone and the start menu is very like windows 10 ,with one long list of apps.Great for a touch screen phone but not to my liking on a non touch screen laptop.I guess the search feature had to be better because the start menu was lacking (imo) compared to 7. Im not sure whether I like the combined explorer/web search either.I mean if i wanted to search the web Id use my browser,and Id use explorer to search my laptop,though I guess this is a personal preference.I think I actually prefer 8.1 to 10,although Ive never used it on my own equipment but have installed it /fixed things on friends and familys pcs with it installed.
     
  9. Soujirou

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    My upgraded Windows 10 had issues but my clean install is very nice. If I was stuck with the former I would've reverted back thinking Windows 10 was broken.
     
  10. accessgranted

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    After using various Windows versions for years, and now that I've ditched Windows completely for over two years, I just can't seem to remember any good reason why I used Windows in the past. With all the reasons why Microsoft isn't worth the trust that users (mis)place in it - and it's only so spectacular with the 10 version (again) - , the lengths through which one might go not to change old toxic habits only seem incredible to me. Just seems like plain masochism. Please, don't reply to this post in self-defense, I'm not attacking anyone: remember I've been in the same position for multiple years, patching and worrying, antivirusing and antispywaring, just trying to convince myself that despite all the privacy abuses and security neglect from MS, Windows was still the way to go. Thank God I finally woke up. And when you'll be ready (if ever) I can only wish you the same.
     
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    I like Windows 10 myself, and everyone at work that I have upgraded so far prefer it to Windows 7.
     
  12. Kerodo

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    Yeah, I had the same experience... The upgraded 10 was slow as molasses (painfully slow), but my 10 clean install was great....
     
  13. Kerodo

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    There is a fairly great relief from all the Win worries when using Linux, I agree. I've been spending more time in Debian lately, but I still find that I like both. But I agree with your main point(s)...
     
  14. Daveski17

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    I'm pretty certain that when MS stop supporting Win 7, and if my custom built - regularly rebuilt lol - x64 box is still running, I will change it to Ubuntu. I already run Ubuntu on my laptop. An iMac looks good as well! I'm bored being a Windows masochist too. :argh:
     
  15. Mrkvonic

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    The problem with Windows is like any mainstream tech. The more popular becomes the more stupid it becomes. Look at first-class flights in the 60s versus what they are today. The moment exclusive becomes mainstream, more people enjoy the benefits, but the conservation of quality dictates that it is spread thinner. And those who complain are those who've had the taste of the early versions, the veterans. So it's better in many ways and also infinitely stupider. Everything.

    Windows 10 is nothing special. That's its biggest problem. Plus 50 odd quirks that align with the stupidity law. Like locked down updates.

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    Yeah, there's stupid, then there's locked down update stupid. That's even stupid for stupid. o_O
     
  17. blacknight

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    I too came back to Seven. As ellison64, I too expected something very different, newer, richer. And not found it. As all new Windows versions, issues with third part softwares - MS doesn't want that we choose our security softwares, we should use his programs ! - too much RAM used ( and I have 3 GB RAM ), many " little " bugs.... Substantially, all Windows versions are similar, never seen great innovations. And Microsoft seems unable to create configurable and nice GUI ! Once in XP and now in Seven I use a graphic custom pack, because I can't see the childish original GUI. Often I think that I'll migrate to Linux also only for KDE and Gnome niceness and customization !
     
  18. roger_m

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    @blacknight I've upgraded a number of computers to Windows 10, and in all cases have been very happy with it.

    You are free to use what ever security software you want, there's absolutely no need to use Windows Defender if you don't want to.

    With regards to memory usage, 3GB RAM really is often not enought these days. However, I haven't noticed Windows 10 using any more memory than Windows 7. At times, it is probably using less RAM.

    I comes down to personal preference. But, I really like the Windows GUI, and absoutely hate OS X.
     
  19. pegas

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    Yeah, personal preferences prevail. I for one am happy with Win 10 and I won't revert to 8.1. Monthly period allowing to revert will cease in my case in three days. After that I will clear all older Windows remnants using CCleaner and in this moment it will be end of 8.1 story.
     
  20. Brian K

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    pegas,

    I used Disk Clean-up with the Cleanup System Files option and also...

    Dism.exe /online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup /ResetBase

    When this was completed I had more Free Space in the C: drive than before the upgrade to Win10.
     
  21. pegas

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    Great! Thanks for the hint, will keep in mind. :)
     
  22. ellison64

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    I think youve hit the nail on the head there.Windows 10 isnt anything special despite all the hype,and it probably is the "veterans" that complain more.To me windows 8/8.1 was more special in its direction and gui.Whether you liked that direction is again down to personal taste.For a while I believed the hype that windows 10 was going to be equally "special" or spectacularly different perhaps a modern "microsoft bob" that was fit for purpose rather than a white elephant.I dual boot mint rafaela with win7 on my desktop pc ,and mint does everything for me except update my garmin satnav.
     
  23. blacknight

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    [only to debate ;) ]

    I believe, but I can't see substantial differences or innovations in the various versions, except may be Aero.

    If you search in this section you find some issues of many users - me too - with security softwares and 10.

    May be, that note that, in 10, I had disabled most services, and checked the programs loaded at the start up.
    Agree about preferences, but I note that MS never really take care of GUI and graphic look, and gives very little options to custom it.
     
  24. roger_m

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    Yes, but are they problems with Windows 10 versions of the security software? I've had no problems with Windows 10 versions of security software, but did have issues with some security software which had not added support for Windows 10, when I was running preview builds of Windows 10.

    In any case, if there are problems with security software which is supposed to support Windows 10, I think it can be put down to bugs in the security software which will be fixed in the coming months, rather than Windows 10 causing issues with 3rd party security software.
     
  25. Victek

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    The broader question is why do we think an operating system needs to be special? I believe it's an exaggerated expectation created by marketing. It was obvious from the beginning that Windows 10 offered no "killer feature" or "killer app". Windows 10's existence is justified by the need to address what was the debacle of Windows 8 for many users. Beyond that it's an incremental update supporting the latest hardware and software, and that's enough. Trying to make an OS sexy is like trying to make security sexy. Security is a PITA and the best you can hope for is to not be disturbed by it. A good OS supports applications and stays out of the way. Windows 10 never needed to be special.
     
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