Windows 11 Pro: Install & Setup questions

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  1. zapjb

    zapjb Registered Member

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    Going to take the leap from W7P64 to W11P.

    Can I from a clean install use a local login the 1st time instead of from a M$ account?
    I will install BitDefender TS will Windows Defender bow out gracefully?

    Any comprehensive up to date guides to disable W11 telemetry?
    Or any other W11 guides I should look at?
    How does the file tree look?
    Is there a God Mode?

    Thanks guys & gals.
     
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  3. Brian K

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    Yes.
     
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    When the Windows setup asks you to connect to the internet... Press shift + F10 to pull up the command prompt then type:

    taskkill /F /IM oobenetworkconnectionflow.exe

    OOBE\BYPASSNRO


    The setup will now restart but you will now be able to click on don't have internet/continue with limited setup to sign in with a local account
     
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    I used this easy method, with a bogus email address and password:

    https://www.howtogeek.com/836157/how-to-use-windows-11-with-a-local-account

     
  6. zapjb

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    Whoa this is a lot for me. Thanks.

    I'm interested in triple booting my T540p with W7P64 already installed adding W11P & a Linux distro. Any tutorials you folks have used?
     
  7. Brummelchen

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    god mode? seriously?

    create a full image backup, then let w11 setup from stick format the win11 partition and start from scratch?

    Bitdefender? Please stop using such crappy software on win10 or later. you will get into trouble, word!

    you missed win10 i think. Drop (!) any knwwledge about win7, DONT apply it on windows 11.

    ASK FOR IT!

    otherwise you have a lot of negative experience, promised. you cant compare win7 and win10 or win11.
    win10/11 is much more stronger than win7, in special security.
    stay on defender to get along with it.
    dont use w10privace or O&O shutup if you do know about the consequences.

    blind trust will destroy your win11 for sure.
     
  8. Brian K

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    zapjb,

    Is your Win7 installed in MBR or UEFI mode? Triple booting is certainly feasible.
     
  9. zapjb

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    I don't know. My BIOS is set to boot from both but legacy first. Does that mean it's in MBR mode?
     
  10. Brian K

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    Open System Information
    System Summary
    In the Item list find BIOS Mode and Secure Boot State. What are their Values in the next column?

    Open Disk Management. In the rectangles, do you have an EFI System Partition?
     
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    First Question. It doesn't say. It has: BIOS Version/Date then SMBIOS Version BUT BIOS Mode is NOT listed.

    Second Question. I did not see the term EFI mentioned anywhere. I saw Basic NTFS.
     
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    I know from tough-luck experience that you cannot have something called "csm" enabled if you want to install Windows 11. This is a setting in BIOS that enables legacy devices like your CD ROM and whatnot. Having CSM enabled means that your system firmware is BIOS, not the UEFI which is required to run Windows 11 and also to enable Secure Boot.

    This also might mean that your Windows boot drive partition style is MBR not the GPT mode Windows 11 and UEFI require.

    I inadvertently disabled "csm" in my BIOS (not UEFI at the time) and rendered the whole machine unbootable to Windows. You can search online for ways to convert MBR to GPT without losing your data--it's a series of commands via Admin cmd.
     
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    Thanks. That's a MBR system.

    How old is the computer?

    Edit... In System Information, What is the BIOS Version/Date?
     
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    plat,

    One of my computers has Win11 installed in MBR Mode. CSM is enabled. It has an old motherboard that supports MBR and UEFI booting but old motherboards can be unstable in UEFI mode. That's why I used a MBR install.

    At one time it was multi-booting Win7, Win8, Win10, Win11, Ubuntu and Linux Mint.
     
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    2013

    BIOS Version/Date 2.37 08/23/2019
     
  16. Brian K

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    2013. That is an old motherboard. I'd keep it as a MBR system.
    Microsoft could regard your hardware as incompatible with Win11 and prevent the install. Check the hardware requirements for Win11.

    Edit.... It's possible to get around the hardware issues.
     
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    Ah OK. :) Yes, and I didn't know the OP's board was that old. 10 years old for a board is pretty good but not good enough for Microsoft's standards.

    My board was only two years old at the time (now over 3). Never gave a thought to csm until it reared its head. My hardware is fully compliant w/Windows 11 (cpu is Coffee Lake i9 and I have a discrete tpm chip). So I do not know why csm was enabled in BIOS mode at the time as no legacy devices were attached. I just thought I would mention in an anecdotal sense.
     
  18. Brian K

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    plat, that MBR computer of mine is 10 years old. It has a 4th generation CPU.

    On recent computers, like you, I have CSM disabled and UEFI enabled.
     
  19. Brian K

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    zapjb,

    Do you have a SSD in that computer? I would never suggest installing Win11 on a HD. It is torture.
     
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    Yes a 500GB SSD. I would think plenty of room for W7P64, W11P & Debian 11. Now if my setup is ok. Then I need a tutorial (easy). W7P64 is already installed. I'd think W11P would be installed next & last to be installed Debian 11. I'd also like a separate data partition that all 3 OS's have full access to. Oh & I guess to be safe a tutorial that includes bypassing W11P hardware requirements.
     
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    OK. First, can you post a screenshot of the Disk Management rectangles. Better still, screenshot the entire screen. I need to see the Free Space in each partition as well as the partition sizes.
     
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    Here it is & thank you. 3Capture.JPG
     
  23. Brian K

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    This is what I propose. I can talk you through the steps as it's not a simple procedure if you haven't used BootIt Bare Metal before (BIBM). There is a one month free trial of BIBM. Then you need to buy it.

    Download BIBM. Create a USB Flash Drive. Boot the UFD and resize the 466 GB partition to 150 GB. There is 115 GB of Used Space in the Win7 partition. Now you have 316 GB of Free Space following the Win7 partition.

    Boot the UFD and install BIBM. It will create a 8 MB FAT partition at the end of the drive and install into that partition. Use the choice to create more than 4 primary partitions. The FAT partition really is a small partition.

    Remove the UFD and restart the computer. It will boot to BIBM. Select the Win7 Boot Item and Win7 will boot. Restart and BIBM will boot.

    In BIBM create a 100 GB NTFS primary partition with a label of Win11. Create a 50 GB Linux Native partition with a label of Debian. Create a NTFS primary partition in the remaining Free Space. It should be about 166 GB. Use a label of DATA.

    Download a Win11 Pro ISO. Use Rufus to create a UFD that should get around the hardware incompatibility.

    In BIBM create a Boot Item for Win11. Boot the Win11 UFD and install Win11 to the 100 GB partition. After Win11 is booting OK you will need to Reactivate BIBM.

    In BIBM create a Boot Item for Debian. Boot the Debian UFD and install Debian to the 50 GB partition. After Debian is booting OK you will need to Reactivate BIBM.

    That's it. Still interested?
     
  24. zapjb

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    I couldn't get this pc to boot to a USB flash drive. Can I do this through DVDs?
     
  25. Brummelchen

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    2013. no tpm module = not compatible.
    another issue may be the used cpu.
    in both cases windows 11 will deny half year updates.

    and no need for bootit, not neccessary [...] tool.

    booting, press F2 if you can, its the most used key to get the boot from ... menu.

    MCT can create ISO files which can be used with RUFUS (portable) -> usb stick!
     
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