Windows 11 leak reveals new UI, Start menu, and more (Discussion)

This PC meets all but the CPU requirements and I'm not racing out to upgrade either.

 

I agree. This will keep many users away from 11.

 

There are workarounds which let you install on Windows 11 on unsupported hardware. I'm running it on ten year old laptop, with a 2nd gen i3 CPU and it's running just as fast as when I last do a clean install three years ago.

Based on my experience installing in on multiple computers, Windows 11 should run just as well as Windows 10 and perhaps slightly faster on just about any computer that Windows 10 runs on. It even runs well on an old laptop from 2006.

Windows 11 does not require more powerful hardware to run. Microsoft have just limited the computers you can run it on for stability and security. Of course Windows 10 is receiving updates and if you happy to keep running it, it's find to do just that. But you won't need to buy a new computer to upgrade to Windows 11 if you want to.

 

Not with the inexplicably clunky task bar.

 

I agree with Roger. Win11 works just as well as Win10 on computers with 2nd generation Intel CPUs. But the OS needs to be on a SSD otherwise it's not a pleasant experience.

 

Probably not nearly as many as those that don't meet the TPM requirement. And like you, most people aren't going to buy a new computer just for Windows 11.

 

I have 5 computers in this house. Only 1 had a compatible CPU. So if you go by me, I am sure a very large percentage out there have not upgraded for that reason. But that will change, of course, as the world's existing computers are replaced with new computers through normal attrition.

FWIW, there is a little bit of a learning curve, but other than that, W11 works great. That said, there were learning curves going from DOS to Windows 3.x, from 3.x to 95, 95, to 98, 98 to XP, XP to W7, W7 to W10 - and guess what? We all survived. So I fail to see the fuss about moving to W11. It should just be considered a part of life now.

And BTW, with a little bit of effort, and Start11, it is not hard to make W11 look and feel like W7.

 

Normally I would agree with you, @Bill_Bright but the 7-yrs between my 4th gen Intel-based i7 acquisition and current has not really produced a machine that has much more capability than what I already have. Processors are still close to the same speed and the faster memory doesn't really do much for me at all. I have already applied Solid State disk technology to the rig and it's pretty quick as a result.

For me, "normal attrition" doesn't get me much at all after 7-yrs. UI gadgets will always get you historical looks (I use W10 at the moment) if needed but what am I really getting if I upgrade my machine after 7-yrs... is Windows 11 it?

 

No?! Why not?!!

I think I'll skip Windows 11 altogether. It's like a patchwork quilt of UIs the coders and devs cobbled together over cookies and hot chocolate and then had a good laugh about. It's almost a joke--just the part about arbitrarily cutting off cpu/s past a certain generation and then publishing a tutorial about how to bypass its own restrictions. And please don't say Microsoft was being "protective" about users finding ways on their own. It ain't happening. lol!.

Hopefully, Windows 12 will debut in a much better light, before Windows 10 goes end-of-life.

 

The UI is more pretty, but for me, functionality is reduced especially wrt the task bar, some of which I rely on.
I am normally an early adopter, but not with W11. W10 does the job.

I have the Insider beta in one partition, just to keep an eye on developments.

 

Why not just use StartAllBack to make the taskbar like Win10?

 

notepad replacer is not able to replace anything, how I am supposed to use it?

even a simple thing like notepad is weird

can't type anyhting in the replace field

as of now: startmenu sucks
taskbar sucks
notepad is broken

 

It working fine for me.

 

its problably hit and miss, paint is not working on one system on another it works (win11)
what I am saying is that win 11 is unreliable,
everything works on my win 10

 

Could give that a shot. Would prefer native functionality though.
In Win 10 one can also still add a toolbar to the taskbar - I use that to launch portables, but I have another means to solve that.

 

Everything works for me and I've only had minor issues. I have a feeling I couldn't open paint at one point, but I can now. I'm glad I upgraded.

 

When I'm running Windows 11, I have the full telemetry enabled. If there is a malfunction somewhere, a problem report is sent and within a couple of days or so, the issue (very rare) is resolved. So, was a problem report sent for Notepad? It would be in the Reliability History in Control Panel.

That's one thing I miss in Windows 10: Paint. Plain Paint. I'm stuck with Paint3D which I find rather horrid. Don't want to install a third party editing app so I'll deal.

 

Yes, hopefully. If M$ follows the trend of evolving from Win 7 through 10 we'll be in great shape. Otherwise, we may have to compromise by hanging on to an unsupported OS for a while if it goes anything like XP to 7, and 10 to 11.

 

Do you not have Paint? Or don't like what it has become? I have Paint on my Windows 10.

If you don't have it try this:
https://www.microsoft.com/store/productId/9PCFS5B6T72H

 

I have had the new version crash on me. The old one never did that.

 

Hmm, I know, where did it fly off to? This is the message I get when I go to the Store to get it. Maybe I have to re-install the package, right? Come to think of it, yeah, I should have Paint too. But I can't install it from the Store. When I clicked on the link you provided, an error message popped up saying this doesn't have a file associated with it.

I mean, Paint3D can get the very basic things done, it's just not intuitive to use.

Spoiler

 

Sounds like your Store is broken? If you can open the Store you could try to enter Paint in the search bar. That is how I found it to start with.

Edit:
Actually this looks more promising...
https://www.intowindows.com/enable-classic-paint-program-in-windows-10-creators-update/

 

Got my Paint back. Thank you so much, xxJackxx. That worked a treat!

Edit: that Store message ("not compatible with Windows 10" is terribly misleading. I wonder why it says that but it doesn't matter overall).

 

I use it on Win 11 and have no trouble as all running TrueLaunchBar.

 

I think there is paint default from win10 or maybe I did enable it via scripts, anyway its doable, but on 1 os I have this paint that crashes at saving, notepad is broken too have to use notepad++ since GUI is not responding, also after update start menu is not responding