Windows 11 leak reveals new UI, Start menu, and more (Discussion)

There aren't any must have features, in my opinion. So while it's nice to use a new OS, if you're happy with Windows 10 you may as well stick with it, for now. You'll continue to get updates for four years. When support ends and there are no more updates, it would make sense to upgrade then.

 

Yes.
When support ends, I'll upgrade my computer to Windows12.

LOL.

 

Exactly

 

The memory usage sucks.

Fortunately, you can make a desktop app of the online APK emulator, which has the Google Play Store enabled by default and run Android apps without Microsoft's hog hungry RAM requirements for its WSA.

 

So far, the only one thing that I can say about Windows 11 - It's me, an aging person - it's that I have Windows 11 installed on my laptop.
That's it.

 

Krusty,

The security features with Win11 and recent hardware are impressive. I'm using Win11 full time now and I like it. I still have a Win10 partition but its not being used.

My wife has a second generation CPU and no TPM. Win11 runs fine on her computer, as well as Win10. She continues to use Win10 as she doesn't have recent hardware to make using Win11 worthwhile.

 

Hi Brian,

Could you link to the specific security features of Win11? Wouldn't most of those be related to hardware, like TPM? My desktop meets all requirements bar the CPU. I did try to upgrade but it went badly, resulting in a constant reboot loop.

 

Krusty,

I haven't bookmarked the specific security features but I think you need to have Win11 to take advantage of the recent hardware.

Which CPU do you have?

I like Win11 but I don't think it performs better that Win10. Much the same so far.

 

https://www.crn.com/slide-shows/applications-os/windows-11-security-10-key-updates-from-microsoft

"Using Windows 11 security features in combination on test devices—including device encryption, secure boot, virtualization-based security such as HVCI and Windows Hello facial recognition—reduced malware by 60 percent on those devices, according to Microsoft. Some of those features can only be enabled by default because of the TPM 2.0 requirement and higher CPU requirements for Windows 11, Weston said."

Note that these security features, ie TPM, Core Isolation, device encryption and Windows Hello, are more about the hardware than whether you run Windows 10 or 11. My i7 PC is six years old and has TPM in the UEFI, along with Secure Boot. I added a facial recognition camera for Windows Hello and could use 3rd party encryption if I wanted to (but I don't).

 

Kind of...

 

Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6400T CPU @ 2.20GHz, 2208 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)

 

Thanks. My wife has a second generation Intel CPU and Win11 runs fine.

I'd try again. You have a Win10 image. Put the Win11 ISO in a non OS partition, mount it, etc. All you have to lose is an hour of your time.

 

It would be slightly longer than an hour, Brian. I'd have to learn how to do this first:

"Put the Win11 ISO in a non OS partition, mount it, etc".

 

I've learned if the digit after the dash like in your i5-6400T is below 8, then, it's not legitimate for Windows11

 

Ah, OK. I didn't know that but I was aware my CPU wasn't compatible. That said, there are plenty here who have successfully upgraded (and I use that term loosely) without compatible hardware.

 

Put the ISO in your D:\ drive, right click it, Open With, Windows Explorer. Double click setup.exe.

The ISO mounts in a virtual optical drive.

 

I was just going to try with the latest Rufus 3.17, but it doesn't mention anything about CPUs not meeting requirements.

I have four choices I think:

1. Use the registry hack.
2. Use the Windows 11 Upgrade Tool mention here in this thread.
3. Wait and see if Microsoft soften the CPU requirements.
4. Simply do nothing.

 

Stupid me expecting anything to work. I thought I'd try using this tool again. I already have a verified ISO downloaded so ran Win11Upgrade, it gave me a choice of Upgrade, Clean install, or Data only. I chose Upgrade. It's been stuck here for at least the last 20 minutes.



It really doesn't look like I'll be installing Win11 any time soon.

 

Don't give up just yet, leave it running. It may just be taking a long time. Unless you get an error, it quite possibly is doing something in the background.

 

Krusty,

Did mounting the ISO method fail?

 

I'm not sure of the exact steps. If you mean I can install Win11 on to a UFD, then I don't have one big enough. If you mean to create a new partition... I could probably just fit one on my 250 GB SSD, but it is already dual-booting with Kubuntu. If you mean something else, then I'm like that deer with no eyes.

 

It's easy. If you don't have a D:\ partition put the ISO in the C:\ partition.
Right click the ISO, Open With, Windows Explorer. Double click setup.exe.

 

So that would be the root of C partition?

 

Anywhere. Root or in a folder.

 

Thanks Brian. Ok, I'll give it a shot a bit later.

What happens after a reboot? Is the "virtual optical drive" persistent? Does that method upgrade my system to Win11?