Why You Need To Get Yourself a Pseudonym

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  1. lotuseclat79

    lotuseclat79 Registered Member

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    Why You Need To Get Yourself a Pseudonym

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  2. mirimir

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    It's nice to see some mainstream support for pseudonyms :thumb:
     
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    The problem is trolling and disagreeing almost share the same definition these days. People are just very very not happy if there's someone out there who does not necessarily accept whatever they are believing.
     
  4. mirimir

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    You do have an excellent point. Some "professional writers" still aren't used to seeing direct feedback from their readers. They're so sensitive, that they cry "troll" at the least disagreement.

    But then, there are actual trolls. In my experience, trolls will never agree with you, no matter how much you appreciate their point of view. They just keep finding some way to disagree.
     
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    Like me? =V We will never agree if it was about NSA, let alone CIA. No, let alone UN. =P

    On the side note, I've seen some people who were flagged as trolls actually have more valid points than the accepted standards of the mainstream communities. They might didn't manage to express their thoughts in the more fancy ways, but IMO their points are perfectly valid.

    EDIT: Still though, I sometimes reply them with my own twisted comments when I was involved in the discussions. Lol.
     
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  6. mirimir

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    :)

    It's OK to disagree. Disagreeing doesn't make either side a troll. We can at least agree that we're both not trolls, right?

    ;)
    Yes, I've seen that too. Under those circumstances, it's easy for the dissident to start acting like a troll, simply out of frustration. Whenever I find myself arguing, I do my best to stop, and consider whether my inner troll is taking over ;)
     
  7. Veeshush

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    No one really knows what the word "troll" means anymore. So easy to dismiss criticism comments as "haters" or other labels, yet anyone's input on a topic is just as valid as anyone else's so long as it makes people think. Though motives can vary, devil's advocate is warranted. Attention seeking behavior or stalker is separate.

    But for a legit reason for anonymity, to guard against "trolls" is an embarrassing example. We still live in a world where word alone can get yourself killed. And if you're tying to get your message across to listeners without bias then your words are best shared without author traceback. Ghost written.

    Truth is born out of argument. I'm so tired of sites that try to censor arguments on the basis of feel good pacifism. As long as both parties of the argument can realise their own views can change as time goes on, I never saw any harm to letting them fight it out.
     
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    Some people just like a good fight and I have been on the receiving end of a argument with a person who doesn't know that his behavior is considered "trolling", even through you have said you agreed with him several times and just finds something else to argue about.
     
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    The ones that are really annoying are the sock puppets. No matter what they're shown, they keep echoing the official line. Everything you say to them gets a label attached to it. Definitely been a share of those here.

    It's quite interesting how views change over time here. You don't see the labels "Paranoid" and "TinFoil Hat" anywhere near as much as you used to.

    Remember when trolls were big ugly creatures that lived under bridges and extracted tolls from people?
     
  10. TairikuOkami

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    I prefer to use my real name, I would stay my ground even if I would discuss it face to face, even if it is uncomfortable. What I particularly do not like are people, who do not agree with me about something, what they have never tried or experienced, but they have read about it, so they pretend to be experts on the topic. I try to explain it as I can, yet they just repeat someone else's viewpoint, so I just ignore them afterwards. It is like trying to explain arithmetic to the bee, pointless. :cautious:
    That is actually a good thing, I changed my views quite a lot, I admit when I am wrong, I do not defend the wrong argument to the death. People learn from mistakes.
     
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    It takes a measurable IQ to learn from your mistakes. Most of society unfortunately is 90 - 100.
     
  12. fjear

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    no fun in using your real name for everything. fun is keeping track of all your psudenoyms and making sure at no given time do any overlap (for more fun, ensure each pseudonym has a distinct writing style whilst maintaining consistency especially purpose set errors :p)
     
  13. mirimir

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    Right.

    I've been known to write stuff in one language, and then translate it a few times through other languages, and finally tweak a little in the output language.
     
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    Would I be wrong in assuming you take certain joy in the process? Your method certainly had me grinning :D takes imagination along with some seriously innovative "out of the box" creativity to come up with that! Are you able to maintain a consistent writing structure via your method? I assume the tweaks you make don't follow a pre-set directive, therefore are ever changing?

    Surprised there isn't an existing anti-forensics analysis / conversion type program, that databases common sentence structures, phrasing, nuances, grammatical errors etc. based on country of origin from the plethora of source material on the internet and converts input accordingly. Then again, I guess the whole supply and demand issue may be an issue :argh:

    Time for some custom coding? :)
     
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    This is all for fun. It's rather like LARP. I've also been a wildboy-style SCA warrior. What I do for work is far less interesting, albeit useful for my clients.
    I've only done that for short periods, as part of some project. And I only post output for languages that I know fairly well, so I know in what ways I'm breaking them. All of my non-anonymous stuff online is academic, and very formal.
    There are SEO content-generation apps that could probably be adapted for this.
     
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    Brought to mind a quote from one of the Jason Bourne movies:

    "It's not a mistake. They don't make mistakes. They don't do random. There's always an objective. Always a target." :)

    A lone wolf working for the man? :confused: Interesting or not, I'm sure you can't but help find ways to make it more interesting :D
     
  17. mirimir

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    Actually, I have worked for "the man" :isay:

    But my consulting work is in no way related to anything that we discuss on Wilders.

    Well, it does involve computers, but then most everything does.
     
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    We all make mistakes, that's how we learn right? :)

    I'd ask if it was along the lines of VAPT; then again, you could be a a lobbyist or an intelligence analyst for "they who shall not be named!" none of which would be surprising.

    I must admit, volunteering that information has certainly piqued my curiosity :argh:
     
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    Ain't it the way today - When u got no answer just yell "troll!!"
     
  20. mirimir

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    :)

    It's nothing that exciting. I've worked on civil and criminal cases involving abusive behavior of rogue corporations.
     
  21. Overdone

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    Having a pseudonym is quite hard. I own a domain, which I use for my e-mail (I tend to switch e-mail providers every few years). Owning a pseudonym would be useless with my domain.. Every site nowadays requites an e-mail, let's say I use "fakename@mydomain.tld". "mydomain.tld" would point at my real identity.

    I could use a general e-mail provider (google, yahoo, w/e) for my pseudonym but I don't feel like it...

    How do you guys do with your e-mails?
     
  22. mirimir

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    Well, you could lease a server and/or domain anonymously, paying with suitably mixed and anonymized Bitcoins. See 6.4-6.7 at https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Trade .
    Why is that?

    The Silver-Platinum plans at http://vfemail.net/ feature vanity domains, and you can pay with Bitcoins.
    I use many alternatives, as appropriate for the pseudonym and its activities.
     
  23. Overdone

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    That is a really interesting link.. Several good e-mail providers (not for main provider though) as well as good domain registrars. Unfortunately, I already bought my domain from a standard registrar.. I'll see if I can pay with bit-coins though. But the problem is that one needs to give our real address, if one doesn't want to lose the domain.
     
  24. mirimir

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    There's no point in paying with Bitcoins if you'll be providing a real address. Some registrars may not be so picky about real addresses ;)
     
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