Whonix vs Tails, which one is better?

Discussion in 'privacy technology' started by Encrypting_Lover, Sep 11, 2015.

  1. Encrypting_Lover

    Encrypting_Lover Registered Member

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    Hi guys.
    I'm one of users of ubuntu but i want to change os to more secure operating system like as whonix or tails.
    I want an os that does not format all of my drivers during install progress + does encrypt all of my files + an os to make sure about spoofing mac address on the internet and changing my real location that any Organization can not sniffing my data like as my visited websites, information, files etc... also make sure my desktop is protected mode also is secure and reliable.
     
  2. ComputerSaysNo

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    Whoinx is more secure than Tails. Just it's security model is better. Whoinx is also more secure against attacks..

    But Tails is easier to use than Whoinx I've found. Tails you don't need Virtualbox or VM's. With Tails all you need is a USB stick or DVD.

    Personally I use Whoinx on top of Qubes OS and I find that it's a good way to be secure. Qubes OS is pretty complicated though.
     
  3. J_L

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  4. Encrypting_Lover

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    Hi!
    I'm university student and i was worked with some organization that i want work anonymously also i'm C# C/C++ PHP VB.net ... programmer which os do you suggest me?
    on Tails os i found out after restart all of my programs installed will be remove.
     
  5. mirimir

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    Whonix, Qubes or both :)
     
  6. Encrypting_Lover

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    Hi mirimir!
    Thanks for you answer so could you give me iso file link to install whonix os?
    could you guide me about install whonix os on my laptop?
    my problem is i want to encrypt all of my internet connections, does whonix encrypt all of my connections? also could you guide me to how to install whonix on my laptop? i installed other linux distributions on my laptop but all of them had iso file, could you guide me about this one? thanks
     
  7. mirimir

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    The default Whonix is a pair of VirtualBox VMs. See https://whonix.org

    I gather that it's possible to install Tor gateway and workstation on hardware, but I've never done it. It's not for the faint hearted ;) More doable would be to use stock Debian, and implement some of the features. On the Tor gateway, that would be the iptables rules and torrc. On the workstation, add torsocks and rinetd (which redirects ports to the Tor gateway). But you don't get the AppArmor setup, unless you replicate that too. And I'm not sure what else you don't get. Also, you would need two machines. But you could easily use a notebook with Tor gateway on a Pi2.
     
  8. Encrypting_Lover

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    Could i install whonix gateway + tor on ubuntu??
     
  9. Palancar

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    yes. I have done that numerous times
     
  10. mirimir

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    I'm not sure what you mean.

    First you install VirtualBox. I recommend Debian jessie x64 as the host OS. Then import the Whonix gateway and workstation appliances. There's no need to install Tor. It's part of the gateway VM. You just import and run the VMs. It's dead easy :)

    I recommend running a VPN client on the host. That way your ISP doesn't see that you're using Tor. Or you can add pfSense VPN-gateway VMs, and use nested VPN chains before the Whonix gateway VM. That's covered in my guides at iVPN.
     
  11. Encrypting_Lover

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    Which VPN do you prefer to use??Free and reliable
     
  12. mirimir

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    Free? I still like SecurityKISS. Good Irish folk :)
     
  13. RollingThunder

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    @mirimir, can you do me a favor and post a link to the ftp url that directly downloads Debian Jessie x64?

    Thank you ...

     
  14. mirimir

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    https://www.debian.org/distrib/

    If you'll be doing just one install, I recommend the net installer ISO, because it's small, and you'll only download components that you need. But if you'll be doing multiple installs, as VMs or whatever, I recommend the complete LiveDVD ISO.
     
  15. marzametal

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    Having brief exposure to both, I enjoyed Whonix more than TAILS.

    I felt sorta' naked on TAILS, simply because I couldn't let go of the fact that it was loading up an OS at boot, with an assumption that it contains everything I need to remain secure and anonymous (lack of visible protection elsewhere... sorta' like what you see is what you get). I put this down to a Microsoft Windows addiction along with the lack of a flashable router, set up with immediate VPN connection and custom IP Tables. One has to make a big assumption that s**t works as it's supposed to.

    With Whonix, it's all there, ya' got W-Gateway, ya' got W-Workstation... also found the ability to introduce more than one instance of VPN in various sections of the line, on this setup more clear-cut than TAILS. Whonix allows for more mucking around than TAILS. Also with the addition of a Qubes install into a VM on the workstation, you're laughing.
     
  16. Encrypting_Lover

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  17. mirimir

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    There's a downside to all P2P networks: Peers can know all other peers. When you use Tor, it's just entry guards and directory servers that know your client. And it's easy to use Tor through VPN, because the client doesn't need an open port, which would need forwarded to the VPN exit. With I2P, peers need open ports, so you need to use VPN services that allow port forwarding.

    Also, I2P is a lot smaller than Tor.
     
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