Whimsical & Arbitrary

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  1. still_longhorn

    still_longhorn Registered Member

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    Very arbitrary & whimsical! It is not a question of making their business our own but rather discussing what is/can be a good discussion topic among fellow WSF members.

    Just go to 10F forum to find threads that are far from original Wilders topics. Why the double standards? If the subject is interesting it will be discussed. If not, then it will be a very short thread. So why bother making it a policy?

    I am pointing this out at the risk of being banished from this forum.
     
  2. LowWaterMark

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    Ah, clearly you don't know what the subject matter was from that removed topic. Given that, you can't know the context that justified its removal, but, you did make an assumption and then base your argument on that assumption...

    I'm afraid you made an incorrect assumption there. Of course the same topics gets discussed at other security forums. The same news items, the same software updates, the same exploit announcements, the same virus discoveries, etc. Anything that makes computing security news gets discussed at most security forums.

    No, that particular post was removed because of its specific subject matter. Since you weren't here to see what it was prior to removal, you aren't going to know what it was, and I'm not going to repost it just to provide the missing context. I'm also not going to explain our moderating decisions.

    Just as general background though, removal notices are meant to communicate to the original poster and anyone else who saw or participated in the original topic why it was removed. They are not meant to provide the original details of the topic to those who come by later.
     
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    Ah... The pitfalls of filtered and incomplete information... There was no assumption here. I read a single entry with no footnotes (which would have alerted any reader that the thread was edited) whatsoever. It was the entire thread and it appeared whimsical & arbitrary!
    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=53402
     
  4. Bubba

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    Since you are a fairly new member here....you undoubtedly have not run across any threads that have been removed with a note attached to the removed thread with the added word Removed. We don't have to many closed or removed threads.... but I'm sure as time goes on you'll pick up on some of the ways the Admins\Mods attempt to convey to the members a tid bit of info concerning a thread.

    In the case of the one you mentioned....the footnote....or a way that most of our members recognize our actions....was found as part of the thread title. The word Removed denotes it's gone to a holding bin where all other threads that have been Removed reside.

    Removed: some forum against some other forum
     
  5. Paul Wilders

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    Longhorn,

    I'm rather in the dark about your agenda over on this board. As long as it's a positive one: you are very welcome.

    That said: keep the following in mind

    1. we decide about the rules over here as formulated in our TOS;
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    as long as it does not offend anyone, our staff members included. Plain
    and simple: I will not allow such a behaviour, and your are getting pretty
    close.
    3. Steve Gibson over on www.grc.com has encountered severe
    server attacks and has down for quite some time as a result, same as
    countless other servers have been. As stated before: we won't discuss
    the way this server is protected. Our perogative and not open for
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    Thus, I suggest changing tune. In case you feel the urge to discuss these issues any further, feel free to drop me an email; my addy is in my profile.

    regards,

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  6. LowWaterMark

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    The last post that was just made to this thread has been removed as it was not about the original topic. I've also closed this thread now.

    Just a piece of information to summarize about what these "Removed:" thread markers are and why we use them.

    If you see a thread here at Wilders that has been posted by an Admin or Mod with a subject that starts with "Removed: " then that is what we call a removed placeholder thread...

    If it becomes necessary to remove a thread for some reason (such as: commercial spam, blatant trolling or flaming, illegal topics like porn, software cracking, etc.) then we usually remove the original thread entirely and create a new thread prefixing the original title (unless the title itself is against TOS) with the "Removed: " label.

    That placeholder's purpose is to inform those who saw and/or participated in the original thread that the topic was removed, and it usually provides a basic reason as to why it was removed.

    That placeholder is a new thread not the original thread, so it does not show any "Edited by..." or any other flags from the original thread. These placeholders are posted by a Mod and locked immediately to prevent a continuation of whatever the problem was from the original thread.

    So, that's what a Removed: thread is and why we use them. As mentioned above, they don't provide details about the original thread, as that is not their purpose.
     
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