Discussion in 'other software & services' started by richrf, Dec 3, 2004.
Any advice on my post please or should I start another, seperate post ?
I too decided to try Regseeker, and was both amazed, and pleased with the product. I ran the program a total of four times, before it reached the point that all problem entries in the registry had been fixed.
I run XP Pro SP2 with Nod32, and Look N Stop. I am very pleased with the results and can truthfully say that Regseeker is an outstanding product.
I love it!!!
Has anyone heard of:
'Registry First Aid v.3.3
Copyright (c) KsL Software and Published by Rose City Software'
It's what I am using and seems to work ok. Any comments or info on this clearner is appreciated.
Good job Rich! I'm glad we could sell you guys on Regseeker, as it's an outstanding product (actually better than a lot of payware I've tried). Speaking from my experience here @ Wilders', once you consider the source(the poster), the advice offered is very reliable, knowledgable, and supported. Primrose, Ron and Blackspear are more than qualified in that, they are all extremely knowledgable ... and great guys to boot.
What you mentioned above is best practice ... it is much easier to fix or unfix things incrementally. And yes, sometimes the best products are free, or donateware.
You deserve thanks too. As it is these types of threads/questions that help other members and guests out too. It provides a good learning experience for all. Asking the question is just as important as the answer given. So good job all round.
I don't know if Regseeker is Heavy Duty. Most good registry cleaners have a "key word" ignore list, that will prevent any serious problems. ie. installer, shell32, security, norton ...etc.
Give it a whirl ... everyones experience / environment is a little different ... alway make backups ... that way anything can be undone with ease. If it's your first time running the product ... and you're gonna be cleaning a lot of enteries ... making a backup image is suggested as an added backup support.
Those should all be all OK to remove. For a little added comfort you could remove like enteries in seperate passes. Pick one group of enteries to delete ... select them while holding the "Ctrl" key while left clicking the entries with your mouse ... and delete them in groups.
Invalid App Path ... is ok to remove ... this can be recreated by browsing to the proper file if it's not found.
Obsolete Entries ... are simply that, they are no longer needed. And are safe to remove too.
File or Path ... simply put there's nothing at the end of the rope or there's no rope ... it isn't something that is currently functioning anyway.
Remember to make sure the make backups option is selected in the lower left, before deleting anything ... that way anything can be undone ... and those reg. entries can be restored.
In reply to your question - whether it is worthwhile to clean the registry under XP?
Sometimes, it is necessary. For example, in my case, I could not install Ghost because of all the trash that Symantec left behind after an aborted install, uninstall, reinstall. All of Windows XP's horses and all of Symantec's men, couldn't get my registry back together again. So I had no choice but to carefully clean things out, as I described above. It just appears that if enough poop starts to accumulate it is going to leave a ****-bag of trouble. And that is life.
I couldn'nt agree more.
I have used Regseeker for a long time with no problems at all.
You are correct believing there is great potential for damage from use of registry-cleaner type programs. Especially if you do not have some type of backup image be it 'ghost' or otherwise.
Nobody really *needs* a registry cleaner. What people need is a combination of imaging software plus an application that will maintain system integrity. I use Drive Image 5 floppys and Deep Freeze Std. DI5 is legendary, and needs no description. Version 5 is no longer available from official site but you can get 60 day trial of Deep Freeze from here:
Don't let ANYONE tell you that DF is "ok for schools" but "not for home use" -thats a greedy lie from either 'fans' who want you to use their cult-favorite, or (heaven forbid) developers who want to trick you into buying their unnecessary software. I *am* a home user and use this computer everyday and this xp registry is immaculate. I've demo'd the DF product everyday for about 11 months, all the while testing new software, this, that, and other things. After each reboot, the registry is fresh as the day I installed windows.
Pros: Got a corrupt registry? Reboot and it's fixed. Got a registry virus? Reboot and it's gone. Forget about Opera or Firefox -you can even keep using IE! Got CWS spyware? Reboot and it's gone!!!
Cons: 1. you reach a profound moment where you realize what a racket most specialized 3rd party software really is. 2. You suddenly become an 'outcast from the security $oftware community. 3. Computer help forums become boring because most problems you read about no longer affect you.
NO, you dont have to use Deep Freeze. YES, there are similar alternatives, but in my experience DF is the easiest to install and use. Same goes for DI5. A majority of computer $ervice would be unnecessary if not for peoples ignorance of these two products.
and THATS the truth.
Actually Henry, nobody is to blame for the thinking that it's not really a 'home' product except the makers of Deep Freeze. Their website is almost exclusively marketed to schools and corporate workstations.
I can even keep IE? Why would I want to? Firefox is a browser for the 21st century and has much more going for it than just security.
With that said, I think Deep Freeze is an outstanding product. I highly recommend it to any user. Just keep your data in another partition or drive and surf till the sun goes down, fight all the bullies and simply reboot to that 'perfect' state. I agree HenryGibson, it is a product that renders most 3rd party security tools obsolete. As I mentioned above, I think Deep Freeze should market itself better to individuals for home use, it's too good of an application for it to set itself off as a niche product. It is for everyone!
Deep Freeze appears to be hard to remove once entrenched on your system.
Yup!.............It's not just the security thing........It's faster and more versatile.........Occasionally at work I have to endure IE (I've DL'd FF to a few machines!) and I generally end giving up waiting for the slow antiquated piece of rubbish to load.........it's FF for me.
Firefox is not compatible with quite a few websites otherwise it would be great. In the imaginary world where websites were perfect and did not favour IE then Firefox would be the go.
Try www.maxthon.com as it does more than Firefox, uses IE engine, better advertising blocker, opens many tabs without sucking the life out of the computer like IE does with many windows open.
Anyway your milage may vary.
I use Disk cleaner and Jv16 power tools
Any comments on Registry Mechanic?
At this moment I use the Ace Utilities, RegSupreme Pro to clean my registry.
They are very easy to use, make a great job and have nice features...
I listen that the EasyCleaner are a great freeware choice and RegSeeker is also good freeware...
easycleaner is free.
from the site...
www.toniarts.com is no longer my web site, my web site now and in the future will be this (http://personal.inet.fi/business/toniarts). www.toniarts.com is just cheating people for money, I've asked them to stop, repeatedly, with no luck. To get those auto-updates working on my programs you need to change the update URL from the options. Instead of http://www.toniarts.com/EasyCleaner.ini use http://personal.inet.fi/business/toniarts/EasyCleaner.ini.
as was given, this is the correct site > http://personal.inet.fi/business/toniarts/
Some other possibilities for Reg-cleaners, both not free:
Sure clean them out with regseeker.
Several years ago (at the time jv16PowerTools was still from Juoni Vuorio (a young genius from Finland), who made jv16PowerTools, and when there was still a forum for it) there was a very long and very interesting thread at that forum with comparison of a lot of Reg-cleaners. Lots of people put their input in that thread with great details about which reg-keys were cleaned by which reg-cleaner.
I regret that I didn't save that thread.
Well, we are several years further, and lots of things have been changed, new reg-cleaners have been published, and so on.
Just a little update on my first use of Regseeker.......
Well......went to burn a cd this morn....NTI CD Maker was corrupted.....Went back to regseeker.....added removed items back to registry.....and it worked again!..
What error/message did you get?
If you clean your Registry again ... You could add those particular entries to RegSeekers Exclusion List. I would suggest if there is multipe entries you suspect ... first delete the bulk of whats found other than what you suspect might be the issue ... then delete those ones, one by one, retesting that function each time. When you find the offending entry, add that to the exculsion list.
Just an added thought to the above ... if the error code you got was 19,31,32, 39 or 41.- Or CD-Rom Access was missing.
M$ KB Article - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314060
I have always liked jv16 powertools. I still use it in fact, along with regsupreme/pro, regseeker, and oleclean. Juoni is working on a new release of jv16 at the moment (version 2005). It is in the private beta stages at the moment and so far I really like it. Juoni has put most of his work in other projects lately and it is nice to see him back on jv16 again. The new version is looking very nice at the moment...
It's all working now......but I did restore all 600 fixed items...
Too lazy to look through for 1 or 2 related to NTI...
Error said simply.....NTI is not installed properly, please reinstall.
I'll have a good the through the 600 list when I get the time...
Thanks Steve.....a fountain of information..as always..
Separate names with a comma.