Discussion in 'polls' started by mattdocs12345, Aug 15, 2013.
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Default Windows Uninstaller except when there is an Uninstaller listed in the Start/Programs Folder. I read somewhere that if there is an Uninstaller listed in the Start/Programs Folder that this Uninstaller may uninstall the program better than the Default Windows Uninstaller.
I believe, that many of those listed, only provide GUI for Windows uninstaller and that is it.
No. The above uninstallers first run default windows uninstaller and then they do a deep search for remaining files and registry entries.
If I want to update a program with clean reinstall method, then it's the Windows' default uninstaller. If I want to completely get rid of the program and will never install it anymore, I'll just restore my computer to the previous state with a clean image.
Also, lol at the last choice.
Yeah but im not gonna do that 5 times a day.
You test programs as your everyday tasks? Why not use a VM or Shadow Defender instead?
Not everyday but once every few weeks I get an urge to test different programs until I find the one that suits me. SD and VM would work but I don't really like virtualization.
To clear up a common misconception, there is absolutely no difference between uninstalling software via Add/Remove Programs or using an uninstall link provided in the Start Menu. Also, there is no "Default Windows Uninstaller."
When a program is installed via Windows Installer (as many programs are) then it will also be uninstalled by Windows Installer. If a program is installed without using Windows Installer, then there will be an uninstall program (which usually is located in the program's installation folder under Program Files/Program Files (x86) which is used. There is usually some sort of script which tell the uninstaller what files and registry key to remove. If this uninstallation script is missing then the install won't be able to remove the program - and it will have be removed manually e.g. by deleting the program's folder or using a 3rd party uninstaller such as Revo Uninstaller which will try and find all files and registry keys used by the program.
It is important to note, that Windows itself does not keep track of a programs installation. When a program is uninstalled with Windows Installer, there will be a script which lists what files and registry entries are to be removed. Windows itself plays no part in deciding what is to be removed.
I regularly install new software to try out. I used to do this just about every single day, but have cut back somewhat - but am usually installing new software at least once a week. I used to use Revo Uninstaller to uninstall software, but ended up reverting back to just using the programs own uninstallers. This was because it is much quicker, but also there usually is little benefit gained in removing the left over files and registry keys when you uninstall software. In reality while it may seem detrimental to performance to have left over registry keys, the fact is these left over keys cause no problems whatsoever 99% of the time.
My vote went to Geek Uninstaller, as I have been using it lately and it is nice and fast and has 64 bit support, which the free version of Revo doesn't have. Every now and then I give my computer a cleanup and uninstall all of the programs I have installed to test, and don't actually use. Usually I uninstall about 30 programs one after another.
I can't remember offhand how effective Geek Uninstaller is compared to Revo - but I do know that it works well.
But, a few years ago (before Geek Uninstaller existed) I tested Revo and a number of other uninstallers against a variety of software, and Revo was the clear winner - finding more left over file and registry entries than the others.
Thank you Roger for the informative post. I do actually use Geek uninstaller along with iObit and now I am trying out ZSoft. iObit has an advantage over others in that it detects toolbars which are not detected by Geek uninstaller. Im still testing ZSoft...
IObit's uninstaller is nowhere near as good as Revo (and also Revo is better than ZSoft), but it does let you select multiple programs to uninstall which are then removed one after the other which is nice.
If I decide to install something new I make a backup image first and then install and sometimes install many of the same type of program till I find one I like, then I will take that one's installer and copy it to a external drive and then re-image the system drive to bring it back to it's original state and then do a complete reinstall of the program I have decided to keep, so I guess I really use a image program for uninstalling, at least at times
"I don't want to participate in this poll." Oh wait, I just did.
Sandboxie, Virtualbox, AX64 Time Machine, or plain old Windows uninstaller with UltraSearch and maybe registry editing.
I like Advanced Uninstaller. It has nice additional options to clean and tweak OS.
And just like the others have said, thank you so much for sharing this valuable knowledge.
For AVs, I'll use the removal tool for that AV, esp. if Windows uninstaller doesn't remove all of it.
I avoid completely using programs like Revo and prefer to uninstall from Add/Remove Programs but if a program recommends to use their own uninstaller, that's what I do. Programs like Wondershare Time freeze and Toolwiz time freeze recommend to use their own uninstaller. At the bottom of the page in both liks.
It would be kind of scary to do otherwise after reading their tutorial and recommendation. I think their warnings are pretty strong.
I have been using Revo for the past few years and have been fairly satisfied with it after trying many alternatives, including several of those mentioned. I use Revo's default (moderate) setting as I somtimes found the advanced setting too aggressive, removing some necessary registry items!
Sadly, a great many software developers do not provide a thorough-enough uninstaller which doesn't seem to be high on their priority list. Most software uninstallers not only leave orphaned registry items (which usually doesn't impact performance), they also leave over associated files/folders!
So after uninstalling a program I always conduct a file-search (using key-names based on the software & company name) for left-over files and folders ...and more often than not I find and delete them.
It was a trick!
roger_m explained very well. I thought I wanted to add just a bit more info...
There are 3 types of uninstallers
1. One that monitors the installation process (either real-time or through manual invoke prior installation)
- Total Uninstall, Revo Pro, Comodo Programs Manager, Advanced Uninstaller Pro, ZSoft, etc
2. One that does a 'scan' to find more items to remove (after using the default uninstaller provided by the program developer) OR use brute force removal method when default uninstaller doesn't work
- Geek Uninstaller, Revo Free (32-bit apps only), Advanced Uninstaller Pro, Iobit Uninstaller, etc
3. One that simply links to the default uninstaller provided by the program developer (some may add batch uninstall as an additional feature)
- CCleaner, MyUninstaller, Safarp, etc
Type 3 is the 'safest' but may miss things.
Type 1 and 2 find more than Type 3 but are prone to false positives. I don't recommend using them on installers/uninstallers that require reboot because the chances of messing something up is higher.
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