What would you recommend for online payments?

Discussion in 'other firewalls' started by laruru, Jun 16, 2018.

  1. laruru

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    What software would you recommend for online payments security? Windows 7 or 10.
     
  2. Brummelchen

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    does not matter - if your system is current, all patches installed, current (latest) browser version. major problem still sits in front of the monitor.^^
    if you dare - get a live linux disk.

    next - which service to make online payments? i do online banking and paypal. in the past 20 years no flaws.
     
  3. Joxx

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    A clean machine :rolleyes:
     
  4. Minimalist

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    What do you want a software to protect you from? Phishing? Keyloggers?
    In past I didn't use any dedicated software to protect my online banking. Now I use Safe Money, since it's integrated in Kaspersky IS.
     
  5. laruru

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    For example. Mainly browser stuff. Is there any way of securing connections on unsafe public networks?
     
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    Paid VPNs. Or at least encrypted DNS (there are free options) and TLS connections. Not every page has TLS, so not every connection is going to be protected against that local network.
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    Banks have TLS connections, so just check green lock in the address bar. If your browser and OS is up to date, cryptography libraries should be okay and connection secured.

    Edit: Now -> Not
     
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  7. Minimalist

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    I would also suggest VPN (preferably paid service). Just be sure to use VPN server from your own country so you won't have problems logging in. Banks usually block login attempts from "strange" IP addresses.
     
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    Plus only used for online e-commerce activities.
     
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    Or, use one of the AV products rated 100% in this AV lab test: https://www.mrg-effitas.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/MRG-Effitas-Online-Banking-Certification-2017Q4_wm.pdf

    Alternatively if your bank offers Trusteer Rapport, its use. It would give all the advantages of a VPN; i.e. secure tunnel connection, without the hassle of setting up and paying for a VPN.
     
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    Kaspersky's Safe Money browser is isolated by a Hypervisor, can't get any safer than that.
     
  11. Umbra

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    personally i use a virtual machine (Virtual Box) for that.
     
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    I use a separate OS (Debian based).

    I thought I was the only paranoid in the world. I don't feel lonely anymore :argh:
     
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    I like BD safe pay, it opens it's own safe browser with on screen keyboard
     
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    PayPal/BPay/bank transfer/credit card on Win 10 in Chrome.

    Never had a problem.
     
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    Me, I use a Chromebook (beta or dev version) or Linux (MX 17 or Kunbuntu with firewall enabled) for all my financial work. IF I am on the road and only have my Windows laptop and Ipad, I will use either with IVPN enabled.
     
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    you have yet reached the true power of the Dark Side of paranoia... join me and we will rule the galaxy ! :p
     
  17. Brummelchen

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    vpn is no valid security mechanism to avoid wrong pages or other. same for antivirus. fake pages or fake shops are tested against all current security software. forget this myth. a clean machine is alpha and omega.
     
  18. laruru

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    Is it true that Trusteer Rapport won't work properly with Sandboxie and VM's?
     
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    OP specifically mentioned unsafe public networks later in this thread.

    Even if webpage was tested at creation, this not means webpage can't be added later to the blocklist in the antivirus.
    But one does not need antivirus for that: some DNS services or browser extensions also can check against blocklists of phishing websites.
    I don't think antiphishing protection really necessary power users, but it is certainly helpful for most users to increase security.
     
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    Yes: http://www.trusteer.com/support/sandboxie

    Nor is it compatible with most AV vendors banking and payment protection feature. You either use TR or the vendor's BP&P feature. For example, you would exclude your bank's web site URLs from the AV vendor's BP&P startup. In reality, quite burdensome since mine uses about a dozen or so; one for each web page it displays. And each web page has a unique certificate assigned to it.
     
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    I have Trusteer Report Endpoint, i saw here, there is other versions. Not sure which one we talk about...
     
  22. laruru

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    I guess it's the same. Is there any reason to install it in case of other institutions(ones you are connecting to) not using it, if it prevents use of sandboxing software and can also hurt VM?
     
  23. laruru

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    One more question, as EMET is officially taken out by Microsoft is there any reason to run in on Windows 10 computer?
     
  24. itman

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    It will only work on earlier versions of Win 10. It was replaced by Windows Defender Exploit Guard; i.e. WDEG, in later Win 10 versions.
     
  25. laruru

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    Is it possible to install Trusteer Rapport inside VM and would it work properly? And what would be more advised, to go VM/Sandboxie route or Rapport as those seem mutually exclusive?
     
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